Notes From Nature Talk
Collection reference number. I usually put them in the extra info bit.
I'd say 1952 or 53, that matches up with when he was collecting in that area.
Yes it is
Teichalm forest, Styria, Austria
Collector R C Reed, in Chile
but if in doubt, as in this case, transcribe as it is written 😃
I think there is a mistake somewhere.There is a San Juan Nat. Forest in Colorado. San Ignatio is in Montana.
No need to post here, just leave it blank 😃
There are records of him collecting there in 1928, so I would go for 1931. He must be the guy the database is named after!
The two National Monuments were designated by Roosevelt in 1907, which this date could be. Perhaps it was known as Lassen Nat Park then
Yes, but transcribe as Hicoria ovata as it shows how plant was originally described
yes, frondosus can apply to many plants as a variant
Don't guess transcriptions though!
Hmm someone's gone wrong somewhere #error
Eriocarpum
'bitter, quickly especially in back of throat', great to see them brave enough to taste things!
29th
1938
It's French Guyana, if in doubt, leave it BLANK 😃
If in doubt, leave it BLANK!
Yes it is Joan it says San Bdn'o Co.
It's Frondise, there is no tree or variant name. But if in doubt, do what you can and leave the rest blank!
It's Fred!
If it's 'possibly' then just transcribe what is there
No point in transcribing guesses and no point in posting here 😃 Transcribe as it's written unless absolutely certain
Yes
branches at apex... main branches pale... bare white
I'd go October, then Could be October - November in other notes
Yep 😃
If in doubt, Leave It Blank, no need to post here!
Tolland Colorado, if you don't know, leave it BLANK!
Just leave it blank 😃
McGrath Road Steese Highway FBX Alaska
Leave it Blank!
Ithaca and Schoener's Woods
yes Granite Creek
No need to post these, just leave that bit blank and they'll get picked up
I think it's San Bernadino W (West)
I'd put 1990 then 'could be 1990 - 1999 in notes elsewhere
I guess so it's a Honey Bee
So transcribe as it is, because there is no alternative
There is a way, just enclose the first part, type in details then close the box and move it to next bit and so on till finished
I think it's Idelweis (Edelweis) not sure about the city
No need to post
Yes I think so 😃 but I can't find such a collector. Someone else might have more luck!
Yep just a description
yep 1894 and determined 1897
Yep it is Artois
Goenoeng Manaoen , Sumatra, Western Indonesia
or post even lol
It's a description, leave blank or 'skip', no need to paste
Yellowstone National Park VI-16-26 Collector C M Dammers
I think it's Concorde Glen , Colorado
It's just a description, leave blank or 'skip' , no need to post here
Skip or leave blank, no need on here
Just put in month and year. No need to post all these up on the 'boards', they will get picked up 😃
Santa Clara County San Francisquito Creek 1897
Leave blank, could be anything 😃
Nothing needed off that label apart from you can put female in additional notes
I would leave it blank and in additional put Brazil?
One to leave blank I think 😃
It's ok it is transcribed multiple times so it will get corrected
Yes it is 😃
Marks is a city in Quitman County, Mississippi
If you are sure put Shasta as the county
Lake Quinalut is in Washington State
...on decayed alder rhizomorphs fatter
#error spelling
Leave it blank 😃
Coolin Idaho, can't make out other bit
Put in June, then 'through July' on the additonal notes
frondose
Dinosaur National Park, Harper Corner (Moffat County, Colorado, US)
I'd say it was 8 too. Most likely USA as it's university of Michigan collection
I think it's Granite Creek, Norman, Oklahoma
ditto last one
You can crop part, note it then crop another section till it is all complete
Difficult to read indeed, if unsure then leave it blank, it can then be researched later
Just leave the missing bits blank, there are a lot of these
I think the 2700 is the altitude, ignore the other bit
3
They do taladro is in la paz
claremont berkeley ca
Second name is crossed out, so I guess he did this one on his own
F
Highway 162 at Road WW (Glenn County, California, US) August 24th 1978
1964
It's not needed
I think it's 2 males and 2 females, no date
It's where it's known by two names, so put both in
dendroica petechia rufopileata
I think it's VII-16-61
Not needed
It says Craig, the collector
7
I agree, I'd leave it blank and make the comment in the additional details
best to leave blank
Crystal Lake Colorado, 27th July 1968
You can isolate section and type in, then close box and isolate next section and so on. It's a pain I know! 😃
It just says Michigan, Whites Woods. Best you can do! 😃
C A Toschi, It's 16 rd. (road) miles
You can't I'm afraid. Each record is transcribed at least 3 times to ensure accuracy.
It's Mountain, Cajon Canyon, San Bernadino County California
It's palumbus
It's El Razon
Yes it does 😃
Yes if you are 100% sure transcribe the correct spelling, or as it is if you are not.
Yep, put Mono County CA
Carl Leavitt Hubbs
Write whole thing out,sorry.You need to look at each entry as a separate thing when being searched on database. """" Would not mean anything
There is another corona in lincoln county new mexico, but like you say most are from CA
Actually Astilbe biternata, habitat Cascades (Cascade Falls), no collector or number so leave those bits blank.
I think it's Puberulent, which means covered with minute hairs like down.
There are references to C M Dammers and Santa Clara County in 1935.
Peaks of Otter, Sharp Top 0.2 miles below upper end of road to top
I think it's pretty safe, but you we are told not to guess and there is nothing else to prove it is.
4.1.05, can't guess what the rest means, they just want us to transcribe as is.
All the details you need are there 😃
Just ignore the 2 of 2 bit and transcribe as a separate record. You could put that in the additional details, but no need to post here 😃
The largest part of Mackinaw City is in Emmet County, so probably the best guess
Yep 1963
Just needs to be transcribed as is ie. spithmaius.it may well have changed over the years but the scientists can bulk change later if needed
I've always put John Moyler
But again, no need to post here 😃
Just leave it blank and finish off the rest. No need to post these here. 😃
Yep, don't need to post them up here there will be hundreds! 😃
same again, just mark it in additional info
Don't need to post these here. Just add it in additional notes
#error
#scientists Anybody out there who can resolve the issue of my overall transcribing total being stuck? However many I do it stays the same!
Yes, strange. Unless they acquired a specimen from an earlier date, but that wouldn't fit the usual way of recording.
Just checked the EMEC database and it says August, but you may be right!
I kind of agree, not sure why it was crossed out 😃
You will get a lot of these so no need to post here. Just put what it is called now and in additional notes I put Norfolk County in brackets
Just transcribe what you can, skip the bits you can't, they'll get picked up later, no need to post here (too many) 😃
Yes I think he just meant to put 'exposed fields near exposed hillside. But changed his mind about the hillside! 😃
I think it's mountains, but that's just nit picking 😉
Panicum latifolium (sensulato)
tips vinaceous (means red like wine) and acute ? don't need these as descriptive, just need to put that it's on Aspen
It's vis, meaning near, and it's Charlottesville, and names are Lawrance and Carr
It's flowers yellow twice , because he is describing two yellow flowered plants 😃
Number would be the 130 - 1 - 3, but there isn't a date
1768 ! But we need more detail 😃 #error
Too old to be 1999 so 1989
Montview Garage
It's Brent's Gap on Horseshoe Mountain
Pecos is a City in Texas, Reeves County
No, it's Dodero, Brown, Bloomfield. 3 people.
It's the names of the three collectors
No need to post these here, there would be too many.Just leave it blank. 😃
Nope it's the name of the plant it was found on and needs to be recorded in the additional information!
I think it's D S Lewis
Womble is now known as Norman, but Montgomery County in Arkansas is not on the pull down menu. #error
It is Chilom in some languages, I agree it is Chelone glabra, so type that 😃
Also it's Mendo County, 2 air miles South of Eel River Ranger Station.
Altitude 2700 feet, June 15th 1972, and it was caught at a Black Light Trap by J Powell the collector. In UK, blacklight is an ultra violet.
Yep that's what it says! 😉
These can be misleading, I just transcribe as they are written.
Just leave these blank and 'skip' they will be picked up, as each record is transcribed 3 times and then remaining blanks manually checked.
It's a german label but it's Vidzeme a suburb of Kriga in Latvia.
I think it's Beaver Lake, Marquette etc
I believe F D Bennett was american, so I'd go with June 8th.
#error only plant details no transcription details
Stop telling us! 😉
Yep that makes sense, what a team!
In name of P pulchella Schw. if you consider that district which I do not.... (Not sure if that makes sense though)
Easy enough to read sideways 😉
I know more than one human described the same way! 😉
styrax americanus actually seems to be right 😃
Magnifying Glass, saving the picture to desktop and blowing it up, (then I checked the CASENT number) hehe
This is great but STOP posting each one up here, it's not necessary 😉
Agreed 😃
USA, California San Francisco Lobos Creek April 5th 1969 Paul H Arnaud, Jr.
The centre label
Not to worry, one less to do! 😉
Niantic Connecticut 29th July 1948 U N Lanham
#error for the scientists - I think it should be spelt Ischnura
well it's P H Arnaud Jr, in California, Mendocino County and it's 11th August 1961 I think
That's great,I agree,it's just the hashtag that's not needed.The note will come up here without it.But with it,it gets flagged elsewhere:-)
It says collected by Mrs Root so transcribe Mrs Root, he's giving her the glory on this one!
Doesn't need a hashtag, a scientist said just transcribe it in somewhere.
I looked up Melba, Johnson, there is an M S Metts, maybe the Mrs is M S?
Don't need the hashtag, just put it in the transcription, in additional notes or wherever.
September 26th 1953
It's not something we need to worry about.
Can make a note of it being a Paratype though
Yep habitat is Lawn date 1938
Just note 'Genus only ' in additional info
just #error and it'll get picked up
You can put both with an = in between, it's just that it is known as two names
Good idea
Agreed, I think it's safe to transcribe the correct details
Its Cal. Acad. Sci. Colln. So not important, other bit is 1-VIII -74, 1305 m
It's in the paper envelope!
Albermarle County
Best not to alter these. If you transcribe exactly as written the scientists can do a bulk change later if needed 😃
Stenotoposis means being able to survive in a restricted range of habitats or ecological conditions. So that's useful info to record.
You get used to the plant names, they are on a lot of the labels
Yep, no need to tell us, but thanks 😃
Just ignore them no need to hashtag 😃
Yep there are thousands!!
It's 2.5 miles South West of Bucks Lake at an altitude of 5000 feet. 😃
Nope, Tamarix aralensis is the plant it was found on. Just put it in the additional notes box 😃
On Salix
Geddes Road, near overflow, Ann Arbor April 27, 1895
I'd add the extra info in the locality and habitat box
Looks like most of the info is here 😃
I wasn't getting images on these discussions, but I am now, so no worries 😃
It's all descriptive, not quite sure how much we actually would need to transcribe,we only get habitat and locality?
Not sure if I am the only one but not getting picture record coming up for MacroFungi queries?
No image or details coming up, I'd go with the species details that are on the main database record.
We don't need to know this again, but thanks for sharing 😃
Have you ever been chased by a hairy man, waving a cudgel and wearing a kilt? 😉
Hmmm, well Scotland is definitely a country as are England, Wales, and Ireland, tricky one, I guess they aren't on pull down either.
Country is Scotland, Perth is the County Town of Perthshire, Perthshire being the County.
There are a lot of these in the USA, don't need to post them up here! I tend to put Warwick County in brackets somewhere.
I think you are making things too hard for yourself.
If you are sure of the spelling, then put the correct spelling! No need to tell everyone 😉
Parishes are ok as counties as they are in the pull down lists. Generally if there is no county, leave it blank.
I tend to leave the county blank
It belongs to two municipalities,one of which is Jojutia. But I always leave the County blank,as Mexico doesn't have any.
Yep I agree, and it's also a learning tool for those people as to what they need to do 😃
Don't need to post these here. Just add in the additional details.
It actually appears to have been cut off!
I agree, my mistake 😦
Nelumbo lutea (American Lotus), lakes and ponds and boggy situations, Mary L Leigh July 8th to 15th 1936, Rare.
Most of it's there, it's Princess Anne County
Changing it to South Carolina would be ok.
Y4S is a valid co ordinate
Cuchujaqui (Sonora, Mexico), it's the scribble under the collector label - Aug 19, 1957
Check your screen resolution, it is as clear as a bell on my screen?
Yes it is, and no need to post up here, it will become swamped!
Yes copy what's on the label.
That actually says yes, but and maybe. As in we like the most recent.... but even the original is invaluable....
Yep, I think there are more of these around the records.
No need to post what you have done. 😃
Hammock is location. But if in doubt, skip that box and it will be picked up.
Transcribe what's on the label ie the original
Each record is transcribed by at least 3 people to ensure accuracy. They can bulk edit once the database is complete.
There will be lots to correct so you don't need to post up here 😃
I was told not to, but some people do. I guess if it's there type it in, I can't find a definitive answer, sorry
Santa Clara County, CASENT number gives the few details that there are.
Collected in California at Stanford U. Collector P S Bartholomew
Nope, ignore it
Ignore paratype. 😃
No need to report all these, you are doing it right. If no date or location or whatever just leave it blank.
Don't worry about maps 😃
You can put the second one in brackets somewhere if you like, but no need to post up here. It happens a lot, 😃
If you are sure of a spelling, then correct it, otherwise transcribe as is, they can always bulk change later.
Lots and lots of them won't have numbers. Just skip the box. No need to post here. Welcome on board!
This's a typical Ruskin Freer label,all the writing is quite clear(for him), no need to post here.Just skip it and it'll get done in the end
This is how they do it, nothing really confusing, just look above each ditto. The places are correct 😃
Panicum strigonium, Hollymead
Hi mate,really don't have to post these up here.They are checked by at least three transcribers and it would get rather full otherwise 😃
Transcribe each line as a separate entry. You can use notepad and cut and paste.
And who would have realised the typewriter was so old!! 😉
It's San Diego Co, California and VI-26-1963, there are records elsewhere that confirm this.
C H Kennedy, he's a favourite for these!
It's P A Rude, The other bit is abbreviated Collector (Coll:)
It may be an old name for it, Lithia Spring is in Augusta Co. so I'd type in Waynesbow, Lithia Spring
or virginia even
Nope, Tensaw River is Baldwin County, Alabama
Yes, but no need to post all these up here!
Yes T3S, it's ok to correct them
just enter what's on the card 😃
Probably giles co. virginiana
Location partially obscured by specimen #error
Yep I'd already done it! 😃
This is one you can hashtag #error missing specimen
So all you need to do is enter them in both places.
As before, you don't need to post these!
It's an address
The CASENT reference has it as Bison, so I'd go with that. It could be the Bison Reserve in Montana.
Ditto, no need to post these.
Hi, SHS, you don't need to post these type of notes here. Good to have you on board though.
If you are sure, just enter it. Never guess though 😃 and no need to put these up here as there will be thousands!
Ignore the underline,it would be irrelevant in a database search. I can't see the lines 195-6,so not sure what you mean there.
dashes round a "" are just a lazy way of extending the "" so transcribe the info above.
Yes, if there's a lot of the same down one side I do them, then move the green line up and go down the location side, really speeds it up!
I know, but you can move all over the ledger page. Just leave the header page.
Just leave it blank and move on 😃
Just a hint, use notepad open on desktop, and take advantage of cut and paste.You can also do one side then the other.Good work! 😃
It would have been ok to enter all the data as 180.
Not sure which one you mean, I see them all clearly. If in doubt I google the word and go with that. But like we always say,don't guess 😃
I had an answer back from one of the Scientists that they did not need the sex data.
I have many records around these dates showing Giles county etc, so unless he was jetting off in between. I agree though, don't guess 😉
These tend to be Giles County, Virginia, and the 97 would be 1897.
These are inside the packet, so don't panic! 😉
USA California San Bernadino Co.South Fork Santa Ana River Melander Cabin 2-VII-1969 1890 m Paul N Arnaud Jr.
Well we all try our best Joan! I've been unable to work so have a bit more spare time than some. Keeps me out of mischief 😉
Too blurred, I'd try but I'd be guessing #error
I'd say 1915
VIII - 15 - 60
I'd go June having looked at where he was at that time.
I've done hundred's of these to see if the count overall rises by 1% or more! I just seem to be doing the same ones over and over again!
#error no details to record
Yep UAH is University of Alabama in Huntsville as well.
You will see P D Hurd a lot along with the Michelbachers
I agree, I think he deleted the NE and SW. Just type the No. 72 Expo in additional notes. You don't need to hashtag everything! 😃
no need to hashtag, add in additional notes!
Bug is in the paper envelope, no need to hashtag
Don't need to worry about that at all, don't hashtag it.
I think it may be the type of trap with BL being blacklight, uk we call it a UV light. Just add it in additional notes
May just be his own ref number, just add it in additional notes
add in additional notes, no need to hashtag here
Just add it in the additional notes, no need to hashtag it here
Just add this in the additional notes. No need to hashtag it here 😃
Yep - I'd go 1968 too
Cyphostemma juttae (Bastard cobas) 😉
The station that has this is in Giles County, Virginia, USA and I think that's where most of them came from. Others may no more.
Location; Everywhere in woods
Quercus coccinea
and the Philippines!
Yep, had India, China, UK, France, Trinidad, Bahamas, Australia, Brazil, Equador, Guyana, I think that's it 😉
I just type female or male, you can use the keyboard windows alt +12 female alt + 11 male or unicode if mac
I know it could be 1943 or 1947, but I had a look on the ESSIG database with the EMEC number and they have 1943.
hash sign is on my keyboard.
It says Mariposa County California 500, VI. 3.1938. I have a magnifying glass that I find really useful.Windows has a magnifying facility
They are grid references.
Looks like a male symbol, but don't forget, if in doubt, don't guess.
Could have been suicide? 😉
My magnifying glass says a badly written 5, so 25, but I googled a bit and they were there on 25th, not on 28th!
It's actually 29 Palms, San Bernadino County, I could check the EMEC number on the database for this,
No need to transcribe that, I think it's Timberlake, but det. just means the person who checked it and we don't record that.
It's 1949, that's when he was there! Like before if in doubt,leave blank and 'skip',four pairs of eyes check these so someone will get it.
It's in the county drop down, so don't worry.
Hi,don't need to put spelling errors up here,there would be too many!If you are sure type correct word,if not type as per original. 😃
I think someone got too big a flash bulb for his birthday!
Would be a bit scary to ask people what they could see. Could be some very strange people out there!
Of course, I was thinking along different lines!
Number obscured by pin between No and Calif. Coast #error
It could be the pencilled one looking at it,but there's varieties that include the other,I'd do the typed and add the other in addtl. notes
Hmmm what make you think that? 😉
There's a lot of cucullator referred in foreign and latin notes, but I think you are right with cucullata.
Magnifying glass says 1965
I like the 'probably near Auburn' perhaps he had a few beers that night!
:-p
aha but is that actually no 1 or is is it No 1.1 being the second? 😉
This one made me jump!
I could only guess at 1977
Westcott Arizona, P H Timberlake, Not sure of the rest!
Hi, Rev! If you are sure of a spelling just type it in.There will be thousands of spelling errors so no need to post them here 😃
1985 he was there!
Nope.
I've had some in the 40's!
Yea, I put dashes if it has dashes.I found if you like cut and pasting you can go all down one side,then all down the other using the lines.
Not to worry, just do your best.There's always plenty more to do! These are transcribed a few times to ensure consistent entries. 😃
It could be 'near China Mount'
Hi, nilremzo! No need to put these up here.There are loads of spelling errors.Either type whats there or if sure, type the correct words.
It's Snow Lake near.......?...... Plumas County,California
El Dorado County, now incorporated in South Lake Tahoe.
Al Tahoe, California.
I'd put the pencil one in brackets after the original one. There's always space for as much info as you can get on the system.
Peaks of Otter is in the Blue Ridge Mountains, so you got it right.
It's Edgar T Wherry, surely obvious 😉
Hmmmm carbon copy? How does that sort of scanner work? 😉
Just type in what you can and leave the rest blank. These are processed 4 times, and blanks picked up when the database is compiled.
Took some tracking down but it's C M Dammers and it's def. May 16th 1928
Corona, along Corona River Tamaulipas Mexico
May 16th 1928
Preston County was in Virginia, now West Virginia, so I wonder if he got it wrong although it borders pa, but its definitely Preston County
I think I said that! 😉
Hi Sky, just ignore these. It's where someone has confirmed the ID of the specimen. ! eqettal, 1981. Something like that anyway.
Looks like 1961 to me,I looked them up and they were collecting in Portal in Sept 1961,so looks right 😃
Welcome Mr Kewy.Locality says Amelia County, and it is Hills Pond. You will find loads of these,no need to post up here,just leave blanks.
We just need to transcribe what is written. Apart from spelling errors which we can correct if we are sure. 😃
Welcome Anax!Theres a lot of these sort of things that don't need to be posted here. Just leave blank and move on.There's 4 checks anyway.
Could be Sp actually, September
Magnifying glass says 5
Oh dear, age gets to all of us 😉
X is all you have so put that,I don't think anyone will track the missing piece of paper!But..... he was in Nogales in October 65!!
Best just to enter once, the 2200 is probably correct, scientists say to enter as is written except.if confident, for spelling mistakes
1940 looks good to me!
'exceeds' is the word you are missing!
I'm wondering if he scribbled it above, then underlined it? He's not one of our most legible contributors!
I agree with Riskin, but I may put ( = etc etc) in the additional details
I always took it to be St Annes Park.
I think it said rocky places, and he only had the strength to cross out rocky? Amazing to see his attempt at writing Spring!
I had to look up synonyms! 😉
Not sure what the = Panicum tenue is on there for?
Yep it's Ruskin S. Freer, good try though!
Yep, just ignore it!
Hi '6000'!,this happens lots,don't need to put up here,just fill in what you can and leave blanks for others.These are checked 4 times!
Drucei is an addition to the name, eg Manduca morelia drucei, the word drucei is tagged on loads of insects etc
It's the time, record it in additional details, 07:50 - 07:52, they'r not usually as close together as this.
Yep, E C Cocke was researching plants and hayfever etc around this time!
Don't know if anyone noticed but if you don't press 'next' row after ALL notes,the record is recorded above NEXT red line,could be anywhere
It's Smilax Aspera, so would be common, escavillo means 'small hoe' I guess they reckon the leaves look like that?
10/20/46 essig says 21, but it's not a 21!
Yep, just what you have to do. Sometimes it might just say Xyris,but it will be picked up further down the line.
As before just put what you see. 552 Overlook Road, West is enough.I think that's all there was 😃
Welcome acather,don't need to put these up here,there will be hundreds!Just spell correctly and move on to next.These are checked 4 times!
Need to transcribe verbatim.We correct spellings if sure,but everything needs to be entered.In details could put (now defunct) in brackets.
It says 'crisp- puberulent' which means crisp and covered in fine downy hairs
But a nice easy cut and paste one! 😉
I'm taking them as meaning near, some are clearer than others, but seems the best choice
I must be lucky in not having any bugs in transcription. I do however see the numbers shown as transcribed hasn't moved from 7 for hours!
There are two batch numbers, 1 and 2. I think he just used the space up with extras.
Yes I transcribe each as an individual entry, " " would be no good. Copy and pasting works well on these, as you can see well ahead.
Hehe, there is a tutorial video! I started without it and then watched it after and learned a lot!
Yep looking forward to that!
Yay this is Number 5000!
Not really, it's a cross, so Panicum laxiflorum X Panicum commutatum.
Welcome Noharr, no need to put these up here, there will be too many occasions! Just check and record 😃
Mr Artz's are always a pleasure!
I can get a lot of it, but really need a bigger picture! #error
May be 10 miles then, but what if she moved.......? 😉
Just need to move him a little to get the locality! #error
Monotropsis odorata, Coal Road vie Kennedy River, Dry bank exposed- S F Carr Augusta County Virginia April 4, 1936(you get used to these!)
I'd just leave it an move on! Plenty more to do 😉
Being in the UK, not sure what that means!
Just July 7th 1980, then July 21st 1980
Welcome! Spelling mistakes will be everywhere, so no need to put them here. Just type them if you are sure of spelling.😃
You just have to love the era of the typewriter! 😉
Yep, the scientists have said there is no need to expand on the original.
I was just looking at the 1913, missed the August altogether!
Cor. is short for corona, it's like the crown of the flower.
4796.2
Its 352277 or so my magnifying glass tells me! 😃
Yoakum Texas should be the one as Highway 77 goes through it!
Misspelled names, just type the right one. It happens a lot!
Location will be ok too. These get checked four times so accuracy should filter through whatever.
H H Iltis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Iltis
Welcome! There will be a lot of these,so they won't need to be posted up here. As long as you are sure just type the correct spelling.
Yep, looks good!
I think there are some that do and some that don't, I am happy enough with your argument to join those who do not! 😉
I'd go 8 miles and 19-1-1969?
It's California and would be Mendocino County, Hopland Field Station
I just realised I do as well, must have been a late night!
#genus only
I don't note these on the record, do you?
Oh yes! thanks 😉
Yep I agree, L G Carr, there is an S J Carr, but I'm not sure he would have been old enough on this occasion!
CASENT has it as 1959. and my magnifiying glass kind of agrees
I've never been happy with Golf, the writing style didn't seem to flow right,but I did find a Yolf River, Albermarle, that fits for me!
Just in case, it's S J Carr, September 11th 1935 and specimen number 255
Mason Valley San Diego County, California 3rd May, 1953. A M Barnes collector.
#error label missing
It's saccharinum 😃
I looked at the CASENT record and they don't have a date either, so it might be something else!
Mexixo Baja Calif. Sur Sierra de la Giganta ca. 20 km W Loreto on Rd to San Javier - August 1975, Savary/Mullinex/Savary
Looks like Panicum, and other bit 'along old road etc.
#error need a bit more for this one!
Yep, It's just the genus, it should be a two part name.
#genus
6 km (Botanical gardens are 6 km south of san vito)
Arizona is fine, you can put SE arizona in brackets in Habitat/ Description.Thats what I do.
Antioch Contra Costa County California
Again, just skip the number box. It will be picked up in due course, but there are an awful lot with no number!
Hi Sylv!, typo can just be corrected where they are obvious like this one. No need to post here. Good spot though!
Welcome syl! We are advised to type the original. I usually put the amendment in additional details/ habitat.There's space and it helps!
I'd go May, but ....
1937
It's definitely male!
Not possible to see, so just hashtag it up here! Scientist will note it needs a closer look! #error
Not possible to read, so just hash tag it up on here and a scientist will look more closely at it. Type in what you can though!
See previous 😃
Welcom Ana! Just put this in the additional comments or habitat details, no need to put them here.
Plant is Ruscus Aculeatus,found 5th Nov.1961,apparently on the decking with Liliacees (Lilies). Not 100% but a little to go on!
Nothing much there you need to record, all you need is typed. But you can see middle symbol is for female,you can add that in comments.
I found a Mrs M Johnson, seems to fit!
Just have to do these! Welcome Klaatu!,you can turn laptop up other way of save pic to Paint or Photo editor and turn it round.
R W Thorp. The Bona name isn't needed it's just a reference to where the identification came from.
Awww their first one!
Yay, I can see Laws if I squint hard! Well done that lady1
Maybe jumped from dog leg to his leg? 😉
I think my eyes were going last night! Thanks guys!
It has an s on the end so I don't think it's either. I would tend to put the county as unknown unless further work can find it
#family
Thanks but not really needed on here as easily checked. Mind you, if in doubt, chuck it up here!
Welcome Stanley!, these are fairly common and easily deciphered,so don't really need to be put up on here. Thanks though!
If it's there, yes.
Well I've done nearly 5000 without it!
Do you reckon he didn't handle it carefully enough?
Welcome Rhiannon! It's C A Martison, but you don't need to record it.
Ok, thanks
But I have been unable to find any record of a Cecil West, I just like to know. I guess it's the scientist in me!
Please tell us someone!
I see what you mean but I can find no reference to Mayber, but lots for Moyler!
Do you reckon he could just look at the world without writing it all down in a notebook?
Yep, type it all in somewhere!
3 confirmations, must be a record! 😉
I would say Gibson, I think the splodge over Duane says det.
Yep
I guess it is, probably more a local name for a landmark, but why not?
I'd say 17th and yes Kansas, bit short, but Rozen was at University of Kansas
Tricky one, could be March!
They get viewed by more than one person, so no need to post this query unless you want to.
It didn't survive long, it merged to City of Suffolk, which is on menu. I put Nansemond in the extra details or habitat in brackets.
Betts, Threlkeld, Jones, baker
Yep, I think it does too!
There seems to be connection between a Tonie and a Craig, which fits, small dot to show an i. Ojai ref looks ok.
Sounds reasonable! 😃
#error need to zoom out a bit
I reckon its Garth Road too, but I've never been sure if its John Moyler, or Moyber?
It is, I think GC9 was just helping with handwriting interpretation!
Sorry Rach, but it says Mono!
Trusty old magnifying glass says 1959!
Thanks!
Welcome! Just put what you can in and leave the other bits. New Iberia, Louisiana, date and collector
Yep and agreed on San Bernadino County
I was just 2 days old when Mr Linsley was scratching about looking for this little fella!
Use Virginia Beach City, which it became and in habitat I usually but Princess Anne County in brackets
And other people's gardens!
Norman J Fashing, just in case there's more!
That's number 4001, 5000 here I come! (after a bit of a rest) 😉
Good call, he was doing some research here in 1918 on wasps, and this is a wasp!
There's additl info/ habitat/description box where extra info can be entered. Best too much than too little,but scientists said original ok
I'm seeing Santa Paula? Terrible writing I know!
What we are typing is going on the record, so as long as we use correct spelling, then it goes on correctly.
Hmmmm maybe....
Southern Mountain Cranberry Roadside up Hales Fork near Walkers property line Bedford County
Thanks, my mistake!
I found some records of him collecting in 1938, but I guess it could be either(or something completely different) 😃
Yep, I wondered if it was 1919, but he wasn't doing this then. 1949 looks favourite! Also III-31 agreed.
I guess it is, but it sure isn't what he scrawled!
Just put both of them in the additional info box. That's where the scientists have said to put anything like this.
Yep it's barbigera.
I'd go V-22 as well!
def 1963!
Hmmmm, 1940 something 😉
E C Cocke yea? That's what I've been putting (most times I think) hehe
Maybe missing the point here,location is Pa. and its 1/2 mile east of Laneville WV?
He did a California Insect Survey in 1966!
Looks like Dennis Paulson, he wrote about dragonflies and damselflies of the West!
I think this guy likes to draw the female sign with a dress on! And I think CIS is Centre for Insect Science,part of Arizona Research Labs.
Collector name hidden by label #error
I think its an old classification, not needed.
#error bigger picture please
I think it's 'appressed', meaning laid flat and 'pub' on upper, being short for puberescent, being lightly hairy.
#error Very faint on the mileage, I have fiddled with contrast and gone for 8 miles
#error label too small to be sure on some details
Not sure if there is something else on the collector label #error
It's a person from others that I remember!
#moderator The typed bit at bottom says Lasioglossum etc, det. label Dialictus Pilosus. I'd say it's more likely Dialictus?
#error bit more needed!
#error Could use some more detail!
#error need a bit more photo!
Slippery Rock is in Pa., so I'd go with that I think.
Not sure, but I did find a shortcut for the male and female symbols alt 11 and alt 12. Now I'll find out everyone else knew already!
It's OK Dragon, wasn't pointing a finger at you, there may be some new people and I know I got confused at the start.
Looking back through the records, this seems most likely August 9th, 1909.
Sudden spate of guessing!
It may be, but I can't see quite see that location?
Year hidden #error
There are a lot of these! All you can do is put in the info that they have bothered to write.
Good assumption! You will get used to seeing these, not much info and rubbish handwriting!
Menziesia Pilosa.
St Annes Park is location, weed in waste places is description and habitat.
Magnifying says 8587.
Agreed, they like us to correct misspellings.
Blakeley is right, and Alligator Weed would be correct.
I can't help thinking it's 1971!
I'd say you are right, Nose!
Lugger was around in 1884, so I recorded this as 1892, rather than 1992. Hope this helps anybody.
I think this is Hederacea not Rederacea, I'm thinking it's a typo. #error
There's sericeus, e is next to r on keyboard,looks like typo there,note is recorded elsewhere as Ceocarpon,but like you say,it may be wrong.
I'd go 16.53, but the other bit would be too much of a guess!
yep BC for Baja California, Mexico
Tricky one, guesses are good, but I wouldn't be sure.
I reckon W too.
I'd say 1962 as well!
Its Hotops!
21st April, 1953
R R Snelling
I like the comment bottom right 'Troubles me', he really wasn't positive was he?
Meant to say, there is a los angeles river in california http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_River
I'd go for 20th April, 1978
Good call!
From others I've seen it's probably Pembroke VA which is where Mountain Lake Bio Station happens to be as well.
There is?
Could be Burdett, she has lectured in entomology and lives presently in New Mexico, guess that's no so far away?
Right label looks like Newport Beach, but that's 100 miles from Big Bear, strange.
#date 1886, pull down only to 1890
I'd go with Alabama!
on the CASENT database they have GR Noonan as the collector.
the dot over ben is a mark on paper, so Big Bend?Calif. Oct 8. 78. Mrs Boubett?
CHIMAPHILA MACULATA, Camp Powhatan, Rockbridge Co. Virginia. Ben Smith July 6th, 1932. Don't worry J, this rubbish handwriting gets easier!
Surely not a number 1 !!!
Thanks W! We all could do with help from time to time 😃
Hmm yes, but why the comment? Just wondering, not wishing to sound rude!
I'd go 1961
Crandall being from Pa. I reckon August, 11 1939. But I can't see Welton being anything else but AZ, Yuma!
Garrison ( He also determined it at top of tag!)
Use month unknown and date unknown at top of pull down menus and 1943 in year. then in habitat or other info put 'summer 1940'
You make have clicked early and there will be a very small box with an x in it that needs to be closed, easily done.
I'd just add 'drawing on tag' in other notes or habitat
Blog said original is very important, but the later bit can be put in under other notes or habitat. Both are important, but no real rule.
Looks like a pretty good go of it to me gc9!
#uncleardate
#handwriting
Maybe flatgrounds?
?? of Blue Ridge 1 mile: Hallows Pond. Sandy soil (dry) Lloyd T Carr.
I think it's actually Coale? (not 7) and looks like white margined stiff blade. Could be anyway! 😉
30th March 1961
First I've seen from French Polynesia!
I have Mr Lelong as XX and it sure saves time!
If anyone has a name or phrase that they get fed up typing,like Michel G Lelong, a free program called PhraseExpress enables easy shortcuts!
Scirpus robustus
Sounds good! #nocollector
Baldwin Lake San Bernadino County California 16th August 1949
Yep Santa Cruz Island!
I use the pull down for Virginia Beach county, which it now is and then maybe under habitat I put Princess Anne County in brackets.
Sphaeralcea Amibigua, 8 miles west of Kane Spring California. Timberlake collector, March 25, 1933 (I reckon)
I thought Moyber, there are a few about.
You can't click and drag from the label on any O/S.
Phew! Number 3000, time for a break!
I stand corrected! I was taking the numbers as substitutions, rather than additions. Thanks CT.
I'd say 400 - 500 feet
Yes it is, but it's not what you need to record!
#error no details
The bit above is the family group and the other bit is the name of the person who wrote in 1981!
Hypericum densiflorum is what you need.
I agree, there is a Lillian CA. I guess he got confused.
Tricky one, he pinned this bug down far easier than I can pin HIM down!
I guess if they consider original note as 'extremely' valuable in confirming the later notes, the original is the way to go,just my opinion!
OK, well in the habitat of somewhere! :-p
With these I type the date in the 'other notes' section. I reckon they may extend the dates at some time #moderator
Assumed as 1965 😃
#newphoto #nolocality
#missinglocation
There are full details under the CASENT database, but obviously we ought to have a bug around here somewhere!
I believe it's P H Timberlake. He had a collection of over 500,000 specimens!
It was collected by R E Snodgrass, July 1894! (it's listed under the CASENT ID number)
ie the original collector.
No it's the name from the first record that you transcribe. (as far as I know )
There are references to Eroponum, but I can't find out what it means!
3/7/27
Eriophyllum? It's prolific across California?
J M Linsley
C M Dammers
B Adelson
I think so, if in doubt I put them in 'other notes'
I had a look around and Powell was in San Diego co. California in 1953. Ties it in with Miramar!
#no-collector #nobug #unclearlocation
I figured pennsylvania turnpike: sec 20. - collector unknown
To assist any others the missing bit is J W Green
I'd go with an 8.
Oxalis - roadside and fields
It looks like erythrorhizos, without an alternative I think I'd put it in and ignore the pencil.
It says densely puberulous throughout (except Culin!!) I think it's Culin, its a place in France,maybe his joke?
Why not possible?It looks like 1934 to me, and RH Goodwin is listed in collections of 1933/34.
Well, there's Texas I suppose!
I'm beginning to get visions of MGL wandering in and out of people's gardens, with hands full of plants!
Just have to use the 'not shown' pick. Maybe it can be found elsewhere by the 'scientists'
5/15/97
I think it's West St. Paul, which is Minnesota
Tussilago Farfara
I'd just put in 'not shown' on the month and 'not shown' on the day, and enter 1924 in year. Best you can do.
A Damselfly, again it might be hiding somewhere else in a bad photo?
It might be elsewhere on here,a bad photo? Hard to hide a Dragonfly!
Is this a question? Looks right to me!
Scientists are now considering that Brachiaria evolved from Panicum. Panicum texanum is recognised, so I would just enter that.
puberulent - covered with fine soft hairs or down; "downy milkweed seeds"
I'd say 23rd!
There were some high up Joshuas in the day, maybe it was called that then, but I'd go with Jos, rather than guess?
Angle? There are articles talking about railroad angle in the area
I agree , my magnifying glass sees hwy 400, but 40 runs through kremmling and 106 degrees reasonably clear.
Very true! In spanish its Mez not Mes, so I got confused.
That's what I found, I reckon it's bad handwriting.
duh... sorry I was a bit slow.... :-0
That makes 2500!
Not sure why so hilarious?
I don't think it would fit in landscape mode!
He did seem to be in Florida a lot that year, which would make it Fort Myers, but not Kansas.
Or Fort Leavenworth?
C L Wiley
I agree, I think it's Appe and the label is the species and who determined it.
D Veirs,
I still reckon Laguna Mtns Ca. The article refers to these collectors specifically.
American so I would stick with feb 3rd 1952
Under my magnifying glass I would say 27th as well!
and talks about possible mislabelling by these collectors at this time.
There is some stuff http://lepidopteraresearchfoundation.org/journals/04/PDF04/04-233.pdf which implies it could be laguna mtns san diego
Yep Santa Cruz Island Prisoner's Harbour Creek!
Yep, looks like a typo
😉 I was referring to the plant name, sorry, very juvenile I know!
Interesting name!
I think it's just an abbreviated version of the label below it. Stanford University.
Nope, just use the date on the card, 1932.
Good question. Maybe someone knows for sure?
Could be some sort of parasitic growth/part of decay? Be interesting if anyone knows.
Yay, we came to same conclusion!
I've squinted and magnified and reckon,comparing his other handwriting it's Camp Concord Trail. No recent matches, but Concord is on record.
I'd go 1960, it it definitely isn't clear, but ties up with Jessen searching in that area.
It's B W Howard as per essig dbase, it was stuck on and didn't quite cover.So other bit is a red herring!
Yep, dates match up as well!
I'd go with Minnesota, Buell wrote books on plants of Minnesota.
Essig records show Palm Canyon Ca. specimen 6/16/1908. Mystery solved? No collector details
He was in Transylvania County, N. Carolina on 27th July, 1954, on that Mountain. Several specimens gathered and I reckon this was one!
There is a Panicum Dichotomiflorum, so it may be an error of the latin tense.
Not sure about the Mind?, there is a restaurant in Bukidnon called Mindy.
It's Philippines, Bukidnon, in Silipon
Yep, E M Betts.You can google which works quite well,search E M Betts plant collect va.You will soon be able to recognise them.Welcome Emma!
My guess is the label is a bit bigger than showing!
I think it's Borrego Trail, Orange County, I did a bit of detective work and Kenneth Denton's specimens were from Orange County in 1966.
It's best guess time, Reeves got around!
Yep it's Threlkeld
specimen is inside the paper pouch. I've seen others like this but can't decipher the other name or remember the collector.
Well we have Rincon ,in Santa Cruz, CA and a date, bison refers to the specimen name.Eyes gray Lower sides white,upper sides brownish yellow
Not sure about galaxies, it was a bit boring so I moved on to something else
I also did about 8500 cloud classifications from the Hubble photos. Been off ill, so it keeps me occupied!
Well, I like to keep it balanced so have a 1000 of each exactly! I jump around a bit
I'd agree with that.
Can't find much about Buell either!
Yay, my 1000th plant to go with my 1000th bug record!
Humulus Lupulus Bedford County Flora Americana
I guess I have funny eyesight!
On your tail PICT, just completed 900 plants AND 900 bugs! I have OCD on keeping things balanced lol,
I'd put the basic location in the locations box and all the flower and fruit details in description/habitat box, there's room, so why not.
Why are these being put in here, just put baileya pleniradiata in the host box? Likewise the other ones
I'd go 15
I'd asked before and not got an answer was just interested that's all! x
It's an 8
Why are you putting the times up? Seems you are the only one, have we missed a directive somewhere?
could be 20th, could be 1974?
Its P D Hurd, he's done quite a few, if you cant read it just 'skip' it and move on.
yep because SP could mean anything! 😉
Magnifying glass makes it look like North or West, but you would need to take out pin to see exactly.
Species is mecardonia, or am I missing something?
Looks crossed out to me, there are about 600 species, so perhaps he bottled out of being more specific!
I'd usually put aug 19th as one date, leave second blank then put what 's on card in the locality or other box, just to record it exactly.
Well, there are quite a few San Felipes, but I'd go with California as that is what it says.
But you could well be right
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=gardiner+wyoming+lodging&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=gardiner+wyoming+lodging&ei=i6OvUbq2JqWT0AWk2oC4Dw&ved=0CPEBELYD
Knowles falls is in wyoming and I think there are parts of Gardiner in Wyoming as well.
Good call, makes sense
why are people putting the times on here? (and why the annoying font?)
Agreed
With the South Fork ref., it could be south fork before Wach, Wachusetts
VIII-25-21 I think, squinted at it with a magnifying glass, zooming in too far just pixelates it and that didn't help much
Well, Lockwood Creek is near Stauffer Post Office!
Well Irish Gap and Clarks Gap are on the same route, with bits in between! (Wand like Bush Clover - but we dont need the local name)
Found an Agua Caliente in Costa Rica, but that only confuses things!
I tend to put first date in box, then both dates in description box. I think it does no harm on the basis these cards may one day vanish.
mesquite, sorry, darn keyboard
Mesquital is an area where mesquie is main plant form, so it may be host?
Creek, I reckon.
I'd like to say thanks to Mr Lelong for clear cards, with all the details we need! Gracias Sr. Lelong
Found mention of a guy called Porter having a mill around here. It looks like Porter to me. I think the dot is a full stop for line above?
I thought we'd stopped fretting about this! Hugs all round and let's move on.
Having said that it's been classified by the experts already as Heliopetes ericetorum.
I think it's NIREUS, I found some species of butterfly with this tag, but like you say not exactly for this one.
I also put it in the host field, why not? It all helps.
Yes, If it will calm things down a bit!
Found some Otis surnames in the insect/bug world, but not an H. I like the urban DTIS (Dont Take It Seriously) 😃
There are references to Tapi Citi in this area, but it would take too much research to pull out something I would stand by.
They are survey references - Township 2 North, Range 6 West Section 16, not needed on record, so no need to worry about them.
I'm English and still smirk at all the Knobs, especially the Bald one 😉
Grote was British entomologist discovered lots of bugs and such.J M Burns determined name of the moth by reference to Grote's publications.
Sounds good.
or even 65? hmmm
OK, I was wrong! Sorry Pict x
Bit harsh! I think any interpretation is valid, and as these records are transcribed by a number of different people, any info helps.
U.S California Alameda County Emeryville
that's what I see too but can't find any evidence elsewhere to prove it.
Born April 7th, 1925.Hugh Iltis "An avid plant collector, Iltis led numerous expeditions to many parts of the world to search for new plants
He is around still, aged 88, so must be 1996.
Dry soil, rocky or ...... That's a bit more!
I think this means the plant was intermittent along the spring, as opposed to frequent or abundant.
Is it Mariposa?
Not sure, I'd put in s.n. and assume others know better than me.
1886! PULL DOWN MENU DOESN'T GO THAT FAR BACK! I USED 1890 AND PUT 1896 IN THE DESCRIPTION BOX.
Alpine Lake is a reservoir in Marin County. So far as I know.
Yep Trice's Lake looks good to me
Can't read it, but have doubts that it's Lover's Lake.Don't think there's a Lover's Lake in Cumberland Co.But I'm ready to be proved wrong.
Yay, maybe you are right, I was beaten while trying to track it down.
Best I can find is kewaunee, but not sure it fits the rest. I think it's the name of a camp, but that may have changed since 1933!
Yep Dr. William McGuire
62!
H H ILTIS, the old boy is still going strong at 88
Just use the two dates boxes, 14th Oct and 23rd Oct
8
agreed
Valley? No idea really.
53! :-0
agreed july 2nd 1915, no collector, so leave that bit blank
There's a Marc Commuter Rail Service
Thanks for the advice and the repetition of what I had already typed, always good to know there is someone who can suggest google!
vis kind of means 'around/about' so near is probably the use here
Not a g a z? Zizia Aptera
Pkin, an actual place name up there
There is a Massie-Meyer plant research centre mentioned in a volume of Native Plants of Texas
Good point 😃
OK, my mistake, sorry
IX - 31 - 38 or 31st September 1938
He was there in 1960, which it looks like to me
I'd guess 1974 going by that font and also when Coville was doing most of his collecting
I reckon 1972?
I'd just put Campus, collector E Storm, date april 1929
collected by otto lugger who died in 1901, so I guess it's 1892!
Leeward Forest
could be hatap on this one but either way they seem more likely to be a persons name?
It's often Hoetop as well!
Dinij is a name that crops up in the area, so probably the Dinij Swamp, but it's probably a locally known name. I have no idea on other bit.
It says Academy Foray, I guess it's some sort of class outing
yep I agree with PICT
Yep check under Virginia
ANYBODY ABLE TO SEE THE LOCALITY?
ANYONE KNOW THIS COLLECTOR?
Yep I'd go with 1967
YEP, I'D AGREE WITH BOTH ASSUMPTIONS!
VERBENACEAE VERBENA BRACTEOSA VERBENA SANDY SOIL ? 15TH AUGUST 1996
PLICATUS IS THE OMALUS VARIETY. DATE IS 15TH AUGUST 1960
Good idea!
I just click on unknown day and unknown month
Just Prunus should be ok
At the top of the day pull down menu there is 'unknown day', just use that and the record is completd
yep Chard
Gennadi Gudi was involved in a lot of plant classification
B28 could refer to land cover. B28 is Snow and Ice, being a natural waterbody, just a guess, but it could be a reference to habitat
looks more like 1995
A malaise trap is a large, tent-like structure used for trapping flying insects - I put in the host box
J PARKS GILES COUNTY NO:3987 8TH JULY 1978 TRAUTVETTERIA CAROLINIENSIS (WALT) VAIL. NE WING ROCKS ON BOTTS MTN IN MATURE WOODS DET: J PARKS
And yes 1966 I reckon
Its America, I'd go July 12th
I would have said 47 sorry!
I believe it means the person who caught the bug, it helps if you want to ask details later.
Yep, just to clarify, don't even type in UC Berkeley
I agree, just put in what you can
If no collector shown you can only 'skip' it
June 7th 1940
7- 23 I use a magnifying glass with these!
What's the question?
I would say 3 km, 600 m and May 14 1985
I sometimes add these additional bits under habitat etc. Cant hurt and it keeps the record complete
I agree, P Johnson was still noting stuff in 2007
There is 'unknown date' at the top of the date pull down menu
1949
13th October, 1985
29th September, 1959
could be Cal Poly
Preserve
Yep, Ranger Station
there is a Rio Temas in Honduras, best you can get I think
I agree, I don't think this should be taken as a location, should be ignored.
Type them both in separated by a -
E C COCKE WAS DOING THIS SORT OF THING AROUND THIS TIME
KIMBOLTON LIME QUARRY, KERNES, GILES COUNTY VA
NOTHING TO PUT THEN!
Collection reference number. I usually put them in the extra info bit.
I'd say 1952 or 53, that matches up with when he was collecting in that area.
Yes it is
Teichalm forest, Styria, Austria
Collector R C Reed, in Chile
but if in doubt, as in this case, transcribe as it is written 😃
I think there is a mistake somewhere.There is a San Juan Nat. Forest in Colorado. San Ignatio is in Montana.
No need to post here, just leave it blank 😃
There are records of him collecting there in 1928, so I would go for 1931. He must be the guy the database is named after!
The two National Monuments were designated by Roosevelt in 1907, which this date could be. Perhaps it was known as Lassen Nat Park then
Yes, but transcribe as Hicoria ovata as it shows how plant was originally described
yes, frondosus can apply to many plants as a variant
Don't guess transcriptions though!
Hmm someone's gone wrong somewhere #error
Eriocarpum
'bitter, quickly especially in back of throat', great to see them brave enough to taste things!
29th
1938
It's French Guyana, if in doubt, leave it BLANK 😃
If in doubt, leave it BLANK!
Yes it is Joan it says San Bdn'o Co.
It's Frondise, there is no tree or variant name. But if in doubt, do what you can and leave the rest blank!
It's Fred!
If it's 'possibly' then just transcribe what is there
No point in transcribing guesses and no point in posting here 😃 Transcribe as it's written unless absolutely certain
Yes
branches at apex... main branches pale... bare white
I'd go October, then Could be October - November in other notes
Yep 😃
If in doubt, Leave It Blank, no need to post here!
Tolland Colorado, if you don't know, leave it BLANK!
Just leave it blank 😃
McGrath Road Steese Highway FBX Alaska
Leave it Blank!
Ithaca and Schoener's Woods
yes Granite Creek
No need to post these, just leave that bit blank and they'll get picked up
I think it's San Bernadino W (West)
I'd put 1990 then 'could be 1990 - 1999 in notes elsewhere
I guess so it's a Honey Bee
So transcribe as it is, because there is no alternative
Yes
There is a way, just enclose the first part, type in details then close the box and move it to next bit and so on till finished
I think it's Idelweis (Edelweis) not sure about the city
No need to post
Yes I think so 😃 but I can't find such a collector. Someone else might have more luck!
Yep just a description
yep 1894 and determined 1897
Yep it is Artois
Goenoeng Manaoen , Sumatra, Western Indonesia
or post even lol
It's a description, leave blank or 'skip', no need to paste
Yellowstone National Park VI-16-26 Collector C M Dammers
I think it's Concorde Glen , Colorado
It's just a description, leave blank or 'skip' , no need to post here
Skip or leave blank, no need on here
Just put in month and year. No need to post all these up on the 'boards', they will get picked up 😃
Santa Clara County San Francisquito Creek 1897
Leave blank, could be anything 😃
Nothing needed off that label apart from you can put female in additional notes
I would leave it blank and in additional put Brazil?
One to leave blank I think 😃
It's ok it is transcribed multiple times so it will get corrected
Yes it is 😃
Marks is a city in Quitman County, Mississippi
If you are sure put Shasta as the county
Lake Quinalut is in Washington State
...on decayed alder rhizomorphs fatter
#error spelling
Leave it blank 😃
Coolin Idaho, can't make out other bit
Put in June, then 'through July' on the additonal notes
frondose
Dinosaur National Park, Harper Corner (Moffat County, Colorado, US)
I'd say it was 8 too. Most likely USA as it's university of Michigan collection
I think it's Granite Creek, Norman, Oklahoma
ditto last one
You can crop part, note it then crop another section till it is all complete
Difficult to read indeed, if unsure then leave it blank, it can then be researched later
Just leave the missing bits blank, there are a lot of these
I think the 2700 is the altitude, ignore the other bit
3
They do taladro is in la paz
claremont berkeley ca
Second name is crossed out, so I guess he did this one on his own
F
Highway 162 at Road WW (Glenn County, California, US) August 24th 1978
1964
It's not needed
I think it's 2 males and 2 females, no date
It's where it's known by two names, so put both in
dendroica petechia rufopileata
I think it's VII-16-61
Not needed
Yes
It says Craig, the collector
7
Yes
I agree, I'd leave it blank and make the comment in the additional details
best to leave blank
Crystal Lake Colorado, 27th July 1968
You can isolate section and type in, then close box and isolate next section and so on. It's a pain I know! 😃
It just says Michigan, Whites Woods. Best you can do! 😃
C A Toschi, It's 16 rd. (road) miles
You can't I'm afraid. Each record is transcribed at least 3 times to ensure accuracy.
It's Mountain, Cajon Canyon, San Bernadino County California
It's palumbus
It's El Razon
Yes it does 😃
Yes if you are 100% sure transcribe the correct spelling, or as it is if you are not.
Yep, put Mono County CA
Carl Leavitt Hubbs
Write whole thing out,sorry.You need to look at each entry as a separate thing when being searched on database. """" Would not mean anything
There is another corona in lincoln county new mexico, but like you say most are from CA
Actually Astilbe biternata, habitat Cascades (Cascade Falls), no collector or number so leave those bits blank.
I think it's Puberulent, which means covered with minute hairs like down.
There are references to C M Dammers and Santa Clara County in 1935.
Peaks of Otter, Sharp Top 0.2 miles below upper end of road to top
I think it's pretty safe, but you we are told not to guess and there is nothing else to prove it is.
4.1.05, can't guess what the rest means, they just want us to transcribe as is.
All the details you need are there 😃
Just ignore the 2 of 2 bit and transcribe as a separate record. You could put that in the additional details, but no need to post here 😃
The largest part of Mackinaw City is in Emmet County, so probably the best guess
Yep 1963
Just needs to be transcribed as is ie. spithmaius.it may well have changed over the years but the scientists can bulk change later if needed
I've always put John Moyler
But again, no need to post here 😃
Just leave it blank and finish off the rest. No need to post these here. 😃
Yep, don't need to post them up here there will be hundreds! 😃
same again, just mark it in additional info
Yes
Don't need to post these here. Just add it in additional notes
#error
#scientists Anybody out there who can resolve the issue of my overall transcribing total being stuck? However many I do it stays the same!
Yes, strange. Unless they acquired a specimen from an earlier date, but that wouldn't fit the usual way of recording.
Just checked the EMEC database and it says August, but you may be right!
I kind of agree, not sure why it was crossed out 😃
You will get a lot of these so no need to post here. Just put what it is called now and in additional notes I put Norfolk County in brackets
Just transcribe what you can, skip the bits you can't, they'll get picked up later, no need to post here (too many) 😃
Yes I think he just meant to put 'exposed fields near exposed hillside. But changed his mind about the hillside! 😃
I think it's mountains, but that's just nit picking 😉
Panicum latifolium (sensulato)
tips vinaceous (means red like wine) and acute ? don't need these as descriptive, just need to put that it's on Aspen
It's vis, meaning near, and it's Charlottesville, and names are Lawrance and Carr
It's flowers yellow twice , because he is describing two yellow flowered plants 😃
Number would be the 130 - 1 - 3, but there isn't a date
1768 ! But we need more detail 😃 #error
Too old to be 1999 so 1989
Montview Garage
It's Brent's Gap on Horseshoe Mountain
Pecos is a City in Texas, Reeves County
No, it's Dodero, Brown, Bloomfield. 3 people.
It's the names of the three collectors
No need to post these here, there would be too many.Just leave it blank. 😃
Nope it's the name of the plant it was found on and needs to be recorded in the additional information!
I think it's D S Lewis
Womble is now known as Norman, but Montgomery County in Arkansas is not on the pull down menu. #error
It is Chilom in some languages, I agree it is Chelone glabra, so type that 😃
Also it's Mendo County, 2 air miles South of Eel River Ranger Station.
Altitude 2700 feet, June 15th 1972, and it was caught at a Black Light Trap by J Powell the collector. In UK, blacklight is an ultra violet.
Yep that's what it says! 😉
These can be misleading, I just transcribe as they are written.
Just leave these blank and 'skip' they will be picked up, as each record is transcribed 3 times and then remaining blanks manually checked.
#error
error I got the date, but not much else. Interesting to see the comment, taste - acrid, one way of testing I guess.
Yes
It's a german label but it's Vidzeme a suburb of Kriga in Latvia.
I think it's Beaver Lake, Marquette etc
I believe F D Bennett was american, so I'd go with June 8th.
#error only plant details no transcription details
Stop telling us! 😉
Yep that makes sense, what a team!
In name of P pulchella Schw. if you consider that district which I do not.... (Not sure if that makes sense though)
#error
Easy enough to read sideways 😉
I know more than one human described the same way! 😉
styrax americanus actually seems to be right 😃
Magnifying Glass, saving the picture to desktop and blowing it up, (then I checked the CASENT number) hehe
This is great but STOP posting each one up here, it's not necessary 😉
Agreed 😃
USA, California San Francisco Lobos Creek April 5th 1969 Paul H Arnaud, Jr.
The centre label
Not to worry, one less to do! 😉
Niantic Connecticut 29th July 1948 U N Lanham
#error for the scientists - I think it should be spelt Ischnura
well it's P H Arnaud Jr, in California, Mendocino County and it's 11th August 1961 I think
That's great,I agree,it's just the hashtag that's not needed.The note will come up here without it.But with it,it gets flagged elsewhere:-)
It says collected by Mrs Root so transcribe Mrs Root, he's giving her the glory on this one!
Doesn't need a hashtag, a scientist said just transcribe it in somewhere.
I looked up Melba, Johnson, there is an M S Metts, maybe the Mrs is M S?
Don't need the hashtag, just put it in the transcription, in additional notes or wherever.
September 26th 1953
It's not something we need to worry about.
Can make a note of it being a Paratype though
Yep habitat is Lawn date 1938
Just note 'Genus only ' in additional info
just #error and it'll get picked up
You can put both with an = in between, it's just that it is known as two names
Good idea
Agreed, I think it's safe to transcribe the correct details
Its Cal. Acad. Sci. Colln. So not important, other bit is 1-VIII -74, 1305 m
It's in the paper envelope!
Albermarle County
Best not to alter these. If you transcribe exactly as written the scientists can do a bulk change later if needed 😃
Stenotoposis means being able to survive in a restricted range of habitats or ecological conditions. So that's useful info to record.
You get used to the plant names, they are on a lot of the labels
Yep, no need to tell us, but thanks 😃
Just ignore them no need to hashtag 😃
Yep there are thousands!!
It's 2.5 miles South West of Bucks Lake at an altitude of 5000 feet. 😃
Nope, Tamarix aralensis is the plant it was found on. Just put it in the additional notes box 😃
On Salix
Geddes Road, near overflow, Ann Arbor April 27, 1895
I'd add the extra info in the locality and habitat box
Looks like most of the info is here 😃
I wasn't getting images on these discussions, but I am now, so no worries 😃
It's all descriptive, not quite sure how much we actually would need to transcribe,we only get habitat and locality?
Not sure if I am the only one but not getting picture record coming up for MacroFungi queries?
No image or details coming up, I'd go with the species details that are on the main database record.
We don't need to know this again, but thanks for sharing 😃
Have you ever been chased by a hairy man, waving a cudgel and wearing a kilt? 😉
Hmmm, well Scotland is definitely a country as are England, Wales, and Ireland, tricky one, I guess they aren't on pull down either.
Country is Scotland, Perth is the County Town of Perthshire, Perthshire being the County.
There are a lot of these in the USA, don't need to post them up here! I tend to put Warwick County in brackets somewhere.
I think you are making things too hard for yourself.
If you are sure of the spelling, then put the correct spelling! No need to tell everyone 😉
Parishes are ok as counties as they are in the pull down lists. Generally if there is no county, leave it blank.
I tend to leave the county blank
It belongs to two municipalities,one of which is Jojutia. But I always leave the County blank,as Mexico doesn't have any.
Yep I agree, and it's also a learning tool for those people as to what they need to do 😃
Don't need to post these here. Just add in the additional details.
It actually appears to have been cut off!
I agree, my mistake 😦
Nelumbo lutea (American Lotus), lakes and ponds and boggy situations, Mary L Leigh July 8th to 15th 1936, Rare.
Most of it's there, it's Princess Anne County
Changing it to South Carolina would be ok.
Y4S is a valid co ordinate
Cuchujaqui (Sonora, Mexico), it's the scribble under the collector label - Aug 19, 1957
Check your screen resolution, it is as clear as a bell on my screen?
Yes it is, and no need to post up here, it will become swamped!
Yes copy what's on the label.
That actually says yes, but and maybe. As in we like the most recent.... but even the original is invaluable....
Yep, I think there are more of these around the records.
No need to post what you have done. 😃
Hammock is location. But if in doubt, skip that box and it will be picked up.
Transcribe what's on the label ie the original
Each record is transcribed by at least 3 people to ensure accuracy. They can bulk edit once the database is complete.
There will be lots to correct so you don't need to post up here 😃
I was told not to, but some people do. I guess if it's there type it in, I can't find a definitive answer, sorry
Santa Clara County, CASENT number gives the few details that there are.
Collected in California at Stanford U. Collector P S Bartholomew
Nope, ignore it
Ignore paratype. 😃
No need to report all these, you are doing it right. If no date or location or whatever just leave it blank.
Don't worry about maps 😃
You can put the second one in brackets somewhere if you like, but no need to post up here. It happens a lot, 😃
If you are sure of a spelling, then correct it, otherwise transcribe as is, they can always bulk change later.
Lots and lots of them won't have numbers. Just skip the box. No need to post here. Welcome on board!
This's a typical Ruskin Freer label,all the writing is quite clear(for him), no need to post here.Just skip it and it'll get done in the end
This is how they do it, nothing really confusing, just look above each ditto. The places are correct 😃
Yep 😃
Panicum strigonium, Hollymead
Hi mate,really don't have to post these up here.They are checked by at least three transcribers and it would get rather full otherwise 😃
Transcribe each line as a separate entry. You can use notepad and cut and paste.
And who would have realised the typewriter was so old!! 😉
It's San Diego Co, California and VI-26-1963, there are records elsewhere that confirm this.
C H Kennedy, he's a favourite for these!
It's P A Rude, The other bit is abbreviated Collector (Coll:)
It may be an old name for it, Lithia Spring is in Augusta Co. so I'd type in Waynesbow, Lithia Spring
or virginia even
Nope, Tensaw River is Baldwin County, Alabama
Yes, but no need to post all these up here!
Yes T3S, it's ok to correct them
just enter what's on the card 😃
Probably giles co. virginiana
Location partially obscured by specimen #error
Yep I'd already done it! 😃
This is one you can hashtag #error missing specimen
So all you need to do is enter them in both places.
As before, you don't need to post these!
It's an address
The CASENT reference has it as Bison, so I'd go with that. It could be the Bison Reserve in Montana.
Ditto, no need to post these.
Hi, SHS, you don't need to post these type of notes here. Good to have you on board though.
If you are sure, just enter it. Never guess though 😃 and no need to put these up here as there will be thousands!
Ignore the underline,it would be irrelevant in a database search. I can't see the lines 195-6,so not sure what you mean there.
dashes round a "" are just a lazy way of extending the "" so transcribe the info above.
Yes, if there's a lot of the same down one side I do them, then move the green line up and go down the location side, really speeds it up!
I know, but you can move all over the ledger page. Just leave the header page.
Just leave it blank and move on 😃
Just a hint, use notepad open on desktop, and take advantage of cut and paste.You can also do one side then the other.Good work! 😃
It would have been ok to enter all the data as 180.
Not sure which one you mean, I see them all clearly. If in doubt I google the word and go with that. But like we always say,don't guess 😃
I had an answer back from one of the Scientists that they did not need the sex data.
I have many records around these dates showing Giles county etc, so unless he was jetting off in between. I agree though, don't guess 😉
These tend to be Giles County, Virginia, and the 97 would be 1897.
These are inside the packet, so don't panic! 😉
USA California San Bernadino Co.South Fork Santa Ana River Melander Cabin 2-VII-1969 1890 m Paul N Arnaud Jr.
Well we all try our best Joan! I've been unable to work so have a bit more spare time than some. Keeps me out of mischief 😉
Too blurred, I'd try but I'd be guessing #error
I'd say 1915
VIII - 15 - 60
I'd go June having looked at where he was at that time.
I've done hundred's of these to see if the count overall rises by 1% or more! I just seem to be doing the same ones over and over again!
#error no details to record
Yep UAH is University of Alabama in Huntsville as well.
You will see P D Hurd a lot along with the Michelbachers
I agree, I think he deleted the NE and SW. Just type the No. 72 Expo in additional notes. You don't need to hashtag everything! 😃
no need to hashtag, add in additional notes!
Bug is in the paper envelope, no need to hashtag
Don't need to worry about that at all, don't hashtag it.
I think it may be the type of trap with BL being blacklight, uk we call it a UV light. Just add it in additional notes
May just be his own ref number, just add it in additional notes
add in additional notes, no need to hashtag here
Just add it in the additional notes, no need to hashtag it here
Just add this in the additional notes. No need to hashtag it here 😃
Yep - I'd go 1968 too
Cyphostemma juttae (Bastard cobas) 😉
The station that has this is in Giles County, Virginia, USA and I think that's where most of them came from. Others may no more.
Location; Everywhere in woods
Quercus coccinea
and the Philippines!
Yep, had India, China, UK, France, Trinidad, Bahamas, Australia, Brazil, Equador, Guyana, I think that's it 😉
I just type female or male, you can use the keyboard windows alt +12 female alt + 11 male or unicode if mac
I know it could be 1943 or 1947, but I had a look on the ESSIG database with the EMEC number and they have 1943.
hash sign is on my keyboard.
It says Mariposa County California 500, VI. 3.1938. I have a magnifying glass that I find really useful.Windows has a magnifying facility
They are grid references.
Looks like a male symbol, but don't forget, if in doubt, don't guess.
Could have been suicide? 😉
My magnifying glass says a badly written 5, so 25, but I googled a bit and they were there on 25th, not on 28th!
It's actually 29 Palms, San Bernadino County, I could check the EMEC number on the database for this,
No need to transcribe that, I think it's Timberlake, but det. just means the person who checked it and we don't record that.
It's 1949, that's when he was there! Like before if in doubt,leave blank and 'skip',four pairs of eyes check these so someone will get it.
It's in the county drop down, so don't worry.
Hi,don't need to put spelling errors up here,there would be too many!If you are sure type correct word,if not type as per original. 😃
I think someone got too big a flash bulb for his birthday!
Would be a bit scary to ask people what they could see. Could be some very strange people out there!
Of course, I was thinking along different lines!
Number obscured by pin between No and Calif. Coast #error
It could be the pencilled one looking at it,but there's varieties that include the other,I'd do the typed and add the other in addtl. notes
Hmmm what make you think that? 😉
There's a lot of cucullator referred in foreign and latin notes, but I think you are right with cucullata.
Magnifying glass says 1965
I like the 'probably near Auburn' perhaps he had a few beers that night!
:-p
aha but is that actually no 1 or is is it No 1.1 being the second? 😉
#error
#error
This one made me jump!
I could only guess at 1977
Westcott Arizona, P H Timberlake, Not sure of the rest!
Hi, Rev! If you are sure of a spelling just type it in.There will be thousands of spelling errors so no need to post them here 😃
1985 he was there!
Nope.
I've had some in the 40's!
Yea, I put dashes if it has dashes.I found if you like cut and pasting you can go all down one side,then all down the other using the lines.
Not to worry, just do your best.There's always plenty more to do! These are transcribed a few times to ensure consistent entries. 😃
It could be 'near China Mount'
Hi, nilremzo! No need to put these up here.There are loads of spelling errors.Either type whats there or if sure, type the correct words.
It's Snow Lake near.......?...... Plumas County,California
El Dorado County, now incorporated in South Lake Tahoe.
Al Tahoe, California.
I'd put the pencil one in brackets after the original one. There's always space for as much info as you can get on the system.
Peaks of Otter is in the Blue Ridge Mountains, so you got it right.
It's Edgar T Wherry, surely obvious 😉
Hmmmm carbon copy? How does that sort of scanner work? 😉
Just type in what you can and leave the rest blank. These are processed 4 times, and blanks picked up when the database is compiled.
Took some tracking down but it's C M Dammers and it's def. May 16th 1928
Corona, along Corona River Tamaulipas Mexico
May 16th 1928
Preston County was in Virginia, now West Virginia, so I wonder if he got it wrong although it borders pa, but its definitely Preston County
I think I said that! 😉
Hi Sky, just ignore these. It's where someone has confirmed the ID of the specimen. ! eqettal, 1981. Something like that anyway.
Looks like 1961 to me,I looked them up and they were collecting in Portal in Sept 1961,so looks right 😃
Welcome Mr Kewy.Locality says Amelia County, and it is Hills Pond. You will find loads of these,no need to post up here,just leave blanks.
We just need to transcribe what is written. Apart from spelling errors which we can correct if we are sure. 😃
Welcome Anax!Theres a lot of these sort of things that don't need to be posted here. Just leave blank and move on.There's 4 checks anyway.
Could be Sp actually, September
Magnifying glass says 5
Oh dear, age gets to all of us 😉
X is all you have so put that,I don't think anyone will track the missing piece of paper!But..... he was in Nogales in October 65!!
Best just to enter once, the 2200 is probably correct, scientists say to enter as is written except.if confident, for spelling mistakes
1940 looks good to me!
'exceeds' is the word you are missing!
I'm wondering if he scribbled it above, then underlined it? He's not one of our most legible contributors!
I agree with Riskin, but I may put ( = etc etc) in the additional details
I always took it to be St Annes Park.
I think it said rocky places, and he only had the strength to cross out rocky? Amazing to see his attempt at writing Spring!
I had to look up synonyms! 😉
Not sure what the = Panicum tenue is on there for?
Yep it's Ruskin S. Freer, good try though!
Yep, just ignore it!
Hi '6000'!,this happens lots,don't need to put up here,just fill in what you can and leave blanks for others.These are checked 4 times!
Drucei is an addition to the name, eg Manduca morelia drucei, the word drucei is tagged on loads of insects etc
It's the time, record it in additional details, 07:50 - 07:52, they'r not usually as close together as this.
Yep, E C Cocke was researching plants and hayfever etc around this time!
Don't know if anyone noticed but if you don't press 'next' row after ALL notes,the record is recorded above NEXT red line,could be anywhere
It's Smilax Aspera, so would be common, escavillo means 'small hoe' I guess they reckon the leaves look like that?
10/20/46 essig says 21, but it's not a 21!
Yep, just what you have to do. Sometimes it might just say Xyris,but it will be picked up further down the line.
As before just put what you see. 552 Overlook Road, West is enough.I think that's all there was 😃
Welcome acather,don't need to put these up here,there will be hundreds!Just spell correctly and move on to next.These are checked 4 times!
Need to transcribe verbatim.We correct spellings if sure,but everything needs to be entered.In details could put (now defunct) in brackets.
It says 'crisp- puberulent' which means crisp and covered in fine downy hairs
But a nice easy cut and paste one! 😉
I'm taking them as meaning near, some are clearer than others, but seems the best choice
I must be lucky in not having any bugs in transcription. I do however see the numbers shown as transcribed hasn't moved from 7 for hours!
There are two batch numbers, 1 and 2. I think he just used the space up with extras.
Yes I transcribe each as an individual entry, " " would be no good. Copy and pasting works well on these, as you can see well ahead.
Hehe, there is a tutorial video! I started without it and then watched it after and learned a lot!
Yep looking forward to that!
Yay this is Number 5000!
Not really, it's a cross, so Panicum laxiflorum X Panicum commutatum.
Welcome Noharr, no need to put these up here, there will be too many occasions! Just check and record 😃
Mr Artz's are always a pleasure!
I can get a lot of it, but really need a bigger picture! #error
May be 10 miles then, but what if she moved.......? 😉
Just need to move him a little to get the locality! #error
Monotropsis odorata, Coal Road vie Kennedy River, Dry bank exposed- S F Carr Augusta County Virginia April 4, 1936(you get used to these!)
I'd just leave it an move on! Plenty more to do 😉
Being in the UK, not sure what that means!
Just July 7th 1980, then July 21st 1980
Welcome! Spelling mistakes will be everywhere, so no need to put them here. Just type them if you are sure of spelling.😃
You just have to love the era of the typewriter! 😉
Yep, the scientists have said there is no need to expand on the original.
I was just looking at the 1913, missed the August altogether!
Cor. is short for corona, it's like the crown of the flower.
4796.2
Its 352277 or so my magnifying glass tells me! 😃
Yoakum Texas should be the one as Highway 77 goes through it!
Misspelled names, just type the right one. It happens a lot!
Location will be ok too. These get checked four times so accuracy should filter through whatever.
H H Iltis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Iltis
Welcome! There will be a lot of these,so they won't need to be posted up here. As long as you are sure just type the correct spelling.
Yep, looks good!
I think there are some that do and some that don't, I am happy enough with your argument to join those who do not! 😉
I'd go 8 miles and 19-1-1969?
It's California and would be Mendocino County, Hopland Field Station
I just realised I do as well, must have been a late night!
#genus only
I don't note these on the record, do you?
Oh yes! thanks 😉
#genus only
#genus only
Yep I agree, L G Carr, there is an S J Carr, but I'm not sure he would have been old enough on this occasion!
CASENT has it as 1959. and my magnifiying glass kind of agrees
I've never been happy with Golf, the writing style didn't seem to flow right,but I did find a Yolf River, Albermarle, that fits for me!
Just in case, it's S J Carr, September 11th 1935 and specimen number 255
Mason Valley San Diego County, California 3rd May, 1953. A M Barnes collector.
#error label missing
It's saccharinum 😃
I looked at the CASENT record and they don't have a date either, so it might be something else!
Mexixo Baja Calif. Sur Sierra de la Giganta ca. 20 km W Loreto on Rd to San Javier - August 1975, Savary/Mullinex/Savary
Looks like Panicum, and other bit 'along old road etc.
#error need a bit more for this one!
Yep, It's just the genus, it should be a two part name.
#genus
6 km (Botanical gardens are 6 km south of san vito)
Arizona is fine, you can put SE arizona in brackets in Habitat/ Description.Thats what I do.
Antioch Contra Costa County California
Again, just skip the number box. It will be picked up in due course, but there are an awful lot with no number!
Hi Sylv!, typo can just be corrected where they are obvious like this one. No need to post here. Good spot though!
#genus
Welcome syl! We are advised to type the original. I usually put the amendment in additional details/ habitat.There's space and it helps!
#genus
I'd go May, but ....
1937
It's definitely male!
Not possible to see, so just hashtag it up here! Scientist will note it needs a closer look! #error
Not possible to read, so just hash tag it up on here and a scientist will look more closely at it. Type in what you can though!
See previous 😃
Welcom Ana! Just put this in the additional comments or habitat details, no need to put them here.
Plant is Ruscus Aculeatus,found 5th Nov.1961,apparently on the decking with Liliacees (Lilies). Not 100% but a little to go on!
Nothing much there you need to record, all you need is typed. But you can see middle symbol is for female,you can add that in comments.
I found a Mrs M Johnson, seems to fit!
Just have to do these! Welcome Klaatu!,you can turn laptop up other way of save pic to Paint or Photo editor and turn it round.
R W Thorp. The Bona name isn't needed it's just a reference to where the identification came from.
Awww their first one!
Yay, I can see Laws if I squint hard! Well done that lady1
Maybe jumped from dog leg to his leg? 😉
I think my eyes were going last night! Thanks guys!
It has an s on the end so I don't think it's either. I would tend to put the county as unknown unless further work can find it
#family
Thanks but not really needed on here as easily checked. Mind you, if in doubt, chuck it up here!
Welcome Stanley!, these are fairly common and easily deciphered,so don't really need to be put up on here. Thanks though!
If it's there, yes.
Well I've done nearly 5000 without it!
Do you reckon he didn't handle it carefully enough?
Welcome Rhiannon! It's C A Martison, but you don't need to record it.
Ok, thanks
But I have been unable to find any record of a Cecil West, I just like to know. I guess it's the scientist in me!
Please tell us someone!
I see what you mean but I can find no reference to Mayber, but lots for Moyler!
Do you reckon he could just look at the world without writing it all down in a notebook?
Yep, type it all in somewhere!
3 confirmations, must be a record! 😉
I would say Gibson, I think the splodge over Duane says det.
Yep
I guess it is, probably more a local name for a landmark, but why not?
I'd say 17th and yes Kansas, bit short, but Rozen was at University of Kansas
Tricky one, could be March!
They get viewed by more than one person, so no need to post this query unless you want to.
It didn't survive long, it merged to City of Suffolk, which is on menu. I put Nansemond in the extra details or habitat in brackets.
#genus
Betts, Threlkeld, Jones, baker
#genus
#genus
Yep, I think it does too!
There seems to be connection between a Tonie and a Craig, which fits, small dot to show an i. Ojai ref looks ok.
Sounds reasonable! 😃
#error need to zoom out a bit
I reckon its Garth Road too, but I've never been sure if its John Moyler, or Moyber?
It is, I think GC9 was just helping with handwriting interpretation!
Sorry Rach, but it says Mono!
Trusty old magnifying glass says 1959!
Thanks!
Welcome! Just put what you can in and leave the other bits. New Iberia, Louisiana, date and collector
Yep and agreed on San Bernadino County
I was just 2 days old when Mr Linsley was scratching about looking for this little fella!
Use Virginia Beach City, which it became and in habitat I usually but Princess Anne County in brackets
#error
And other people's gardens!
Norman J Fashing, just in case there's more!
That's number 4001, 5000 here I come! (after a bit of a rest) 😉
#genus
Good call, he was doing some research here in 1918 on wasps, and this is a wasp!
There's additl info/ habitat/description box where extra info can be entered. Best too much than too little,but scientists said original ok
I'm seeing Santa Paula? Terrible writing I know!
What we are typing is going on the record, so as long as we use correct spelling, then it goes on correctly.
Hmmmm maybe....
Southern Mountain Cranberry Roadside up Hales Fork near Walkers property line Bedford County
Thanks, my mistake!
I found some records of him collecting in 1938, but I guess it could be either(or something completely different) 😃
#genus
Yep, I wondered if it was 1919, but he wasn't doing this then. 1949 looks favourite! Also III-31 agreed.
I guess it is, but it sure isn't what he scrawled!
Just put both of them in the additional info box. That's where the scientists have said to put anything like this.
Yep it's barbigera.
I'd go V-22 as well!
def 1963!
Hmmmm, 1940 something 😉
E C Cocke yea? That's what I've been putting (most times I think) hehe
Maybe missing the point here,location is Pa. and its 1/2 mile east of Laneville WV?
He did a California Insect Survey in 1966!
Looks like Dennis Paulson, he wrote about dragonflies and damselflies of the West!
I think this guy likes to draw the female sign with a dress on! And I think CIS is Centre for Insect Science,part of Arizona Research Labs.
Collector name hidden by label #error
I think its an old classification, not needed.
#error bigger picture please
I think it's 'appressed', meaning laid flat and 'pub' on upper, being short for puberescent, being lightly hairy.
#error Very faint on the mileage, I have fiddled with contrast and gone for 8 miles
#error label too small to be sure on some details
Not sure if there is something else on the collector label #error
It's a person from others that I remember!
#moderator The typed bit at bottom says Lasioglossum etc, det. label Dialictus Pilosus. I'd say it's more likely Dialictus?
#error bit more needed!
#error Could use some more detail!
#error need a bit more photo!
Slippery Rock is in Pa., so I'd go with that I think.
Not sure, but I did find a shortcut for the male and female symbols
alt 11 and alt 12. Now I'll find out everyone else knew already!
It's OK Dragon, wasn't pointing a finger at you, there may be some new people and I know I got confused at the start.
Looking back through the records, this seems most likely August 9th, 1909.
Sudden spate of guessing!
It may be, but I can't see quite see that location?
Year hidden #error
There are a lot of these! All you can do is put in the info that they have bothered to write.
Good assumption! You will get used to seeing these, not much info and rubbish handwriting!
Menziesia Pilosa.
St Annes Park is location, weed in waste places is description and habitat.
Magnifying says 8587.
Agreed, they like us to correct misspellings.
Blakeley is right, and Alligator Weed would be correct.
I can't help thinking it's 1971!
I'd say you are right, Nose!
Lugger was around in 1884, so I recorded this as 1892, rather than 1992. Hope this helps anybody.
I think this is Hederacea not Rederacea, I'm thinking it's a typo. #error
#error
There's sericeus, e is next to r on keyboard,looks like typo there,note is recorded elsewhere as Ceocarpon,but like you say,it may be wrong.
I'd go 16.53, but the other bit would be too much of a guess!
yep BC for Baja California, Mexico
Tricky one, guesses are good, but I wouldn't be sure.
I reckon W too.
I'd say 1962 as well!
Its Hotops!
#error
21st April, 1953
R R Snelling
I like the comment bottom right 'Troubles me', he really wasn't positive was he?
Meant to say, there is a los angeles river in california http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_River
I'd go for 20th April, 1978
Good call!
From others I've seen it's probably Pembroke VA which is where Mountain Lake Bio Station happens to be as well.
There is?
Could be Burdett, she has lectured in entomology and lives presently in New Mexico, guess that's no so far away?
Right label looks like Newport Beach, but that's 100 miles from Big Bear, strange.
#date 1886, pull down only to 1890
I'd go with Alabama!
on the CASENT database they have GR Noonan as the collector.
the dot over ben is a mark on paper, so Big Bend?Calif. Oct 8. 78. Mrs Boubett?
CHIMAPHILA MACULATA, Camp Powhatan, Rockbridge Co. Virginia. Ben Smith July 6th, 1932. Don't worry J, this rubbish handwriting gets easier!
Surely not a number 1 !!!
Thanks W! We all could do with help from time to time 😃
Hmm yes, but why the comment? Just wondering, not wishing to sound rude!
I'd go 1961
Crandall being from Pa. I reckon August, 11 1939. But I can't see Welton being anything else but AZ, Yuma!
Garrison ( He also determined it at top of tag!)
Use month unknown and date unknown at top of pull down menus and 1943 in year. then in habitat or other info put 'summer 1940'
You make have clicked early and there will be a very small box with an x in it that needs to be closed, easily done.
I'd just add 'drawing on tag' in other notes or habitat
#error
Blog said original is very important, but the later bit can be put in under other notes or habitat. Both are important, but no real rule.
Looks like a pretty good go of it to me gc9!
#uncleardate
#handwriting
Maybe flatgrounds?
?? of Blue Ridge 1 mile: Hallows Pond. Sandy soil (dry) Lloyd T Carr.
I think it's actually Coale? (not 7) and looks like white margined stiff blade. Could be anyway! 😉
30th March 1961
First I've seen from French Polynesia!
I have Mr Lelong as XX and it sure saves time!
If anyone has a name or phrase that they get fed up typing,like Michel G Lelong, a free program called PhraseExpress enables easy shortcuts!
Scirpus robustus
#error
Sounds good! #nocollector
#error
Baldwin Lake San Bernadino County California 16th August 1949
Yep Santa Cruz Island!
#error
I use the pull down for Virginia Beach county, which it now is and then maybe under habitat I put Princess Anne County in brackets.
Sphaeralcea Amibigua, 8 miles west of Kane Spring California.
Timberlake collector, March 25, 1933 (I reckon)
#error
I thought Moyber, there are a few about.
You can't click and drag from the label on any O/S.
Phew! Number 3000, time for a break!
I stand corrected! I was taking the numbers as substitutions, rather than additions. Thanks CT.
I'd say 400 - 500 feet
Yes it is, but it's not what you need to record!
#error no details
The bit above is the family group and the other bit is the name of the person who wrote in 1981!
Hypericum densiflorum is what you need.
I agree, there is a Lillian CA. I guess he got confused.
Tricky one, he pinned this bug down far easier than I can pin HIM down!
I guess if they consider original note as 'extremely' valuable in confirming the later notes, the original is the way to go,just my opinion!
OK, well in the habitat of somewhere! :-p
With these I type the date in the 'other notes' section. I reckon they may extend the dates at some time #moderator
Assumed as 1965 😃
#newphoto #nolocality
#missinglocation
There are full details under the CASENT database, but obviously we ought to have a bug around here somewhere!
I believe it's P H Timberlake. He had a collection of over 500,000 specimens!
#error
It was collected by R E Snodgrass, July 1894! (it's listed under the CASENT ID number)
ie the original collector.
No it's the name from the first record that you transcribe. (as far as I know )
There are references to Eroponum, but I can't find out what it means!
3/7/27
Eriophyllum? It's prolific across California?
#error
J M Linsley
C M Dammers
B Adelson
I think so, if in doubt I put them in 'other notes'
I had a look around and Powell was in San Diego co. California in 1953. Ties it in with Miramar!
#no-collector #nobug #unclearlocation
I figured pennsylvania turnpike: sec 20. - collector unknown
To assist any others the missing bit is J W Green
I'd go with an 8.
Oxalis - roadside and fields
It looks like erythrorhizos, without an alternative I think I'd put it in and ignore the pencil.
It says densely puberulous throughout (except Culin!!) I think it's Culin, its a place in France,maybe his joke?
Why not possible?It looks like 1934 to me, and RH Goodwin is listed in collections of 1933/34.
Well, there's Texas I suppose!
I'm beginning to get visions of MGL wandering in and out of people's gardens, with hands full of plants!
Just have to use the 'not shown' pick. Maybe it can be found elsewhere by the 'scientists'
5/15/97
I think it's West St. Paul, which is Minnesota
Tussilago Farfara
I'd just put in 'not shown' on the month and 'not shown' on the day, and enter 1924 in year. Best you can do.
A Damselfly, again it might be hiding somewhere else in a bad photo?
It might be elsewhere on here,a bad photo? Hard to hide a Dragonfly!
Is this a question? Looks right to me!
Scientists are now considering that Brachiaria evolved from Panicum. Panicum texanum is recognised, so I would just enter that.
puberulent - covered with fine soft hairs or down; "downy milkweed seeds"
I'd say 23rd!
There were some high up Joshuas in the day, maybe it was called that then, but I'd go with Jos, rather than guess?
Angle? There are articles talking about railroad angle in the area
I agree , my magnifying glass sees hwy 400, but 40 runs through kremmling and 106 degrees reasonably clear.
Very true! In spanish its Mez not Mes, so I got confused.
That's what I found, I reckon it's bad handwriting.
duh... sorry I was a bit slow.... :-0
That makes 2500!
Not sure why so hilarious?
I don't think it would fit in landscape mode!
He did seem to be in Florida a lot that year, which would make it Fort Myers, but not Kansas.
Or Fort Leavenworth?
C L Wiley
I agree, I think it's Appe and the label is the species and who determined it.
D Veirs,
I still reckon Laguna Mtns Ca. The article refers to these collectors specifically.
American so I would stick with feb 3rd 1952
Under my magnifying glass I would say 27th as well!
and talks about possible mislabelling by these collectors at this time.
There is some stuff http://lepidopteraresearchfoundation.org/journals/04/PDF04/04-233.pdf which implies it could be laguna mtns san diego
Yep Santa Cruz Island Prisoner's Harbour Creek!
Yep, looks like a typo
😉 I was referring to the plant name, sorry, very juvenile I know!
Interesting name!
I think it's just an abbreviated version of the label below it. Stanford University.
Nope, just use the date on the card, 1932.
Good question. Maybe someone knows for sure?
Could be some sort of parasitic growth/part of decay? Be interesting if anyone knows.
Yay, we came to same conclusion!
I've squinted and magnified and reckon,comparing his other handwriting it's Camp Concord Trail. No recent matches, but Concord is on record.
I'd go 1960, it it definitely isn't clear, but ties up with Jessen searching in that area.
It's B W Howard as per essig dbase, it was stuck on and didn't quite cover.So other bit is a red herring!
Yep, dates match up as well!
I'd go with Minnesota, Buell wrote books on plants of Minnesota.
Essig records show Palm Canyon Ca. specimen 6/16/1908. Mystery solved? No collector details
He was in Transylvania County, N. Carolina on 27th July, 1954, on that Mountain. Several specimens gathered and I reckon this was one!
There is a Panicum Dichotomiflorum, so it may be an error of the latin tense.
Not sure about the Mind?, there is a restaurant in Bukidnon called Mindy.
It's Philippines, Bukidnon, in Silipon
Yep, E M Betts.You can google which works quite well,search E M Betts plant collect va.You will soon be able to recognise them.Welcome Emma!
My guess is the label is a bit bigger than showing!
I think it's Borrego Trail, Orange County, I did a bit of detective work and Kenneth Denton's specimens were from Orange County in 1966.
It's best guess time, Reeves got around!
Yep it's Threlkeld
specimen is inside the paper pouch. I've seen others like this but can't decipher the other name or remember the collector.
Well we have Rincon ,in Santa Cruz, CA and a date, bison refers to the specimen name.Eyes gray Lower sides white,upper sides brownish yellow
Not sure about galaxies, it was a bit boring so I moved on to something else
I also did about 8500 cloud classifications from the Hubble photos. Been off ill, so it keeps me occupied!
Well, I like to keep it balanced so have a 1000 of each exactly! I jump around a bit
I'd agree with that.
Can't find much about Buell either!
Yay, my 1000th plant to go with my 1000th bug record!
Humulus Lupulus
Bedford County
Flora Americana
I guess I have funny eyesight!
On your tail PICT, just completed 900 plants AND 900 bugs! I have OCD on keeping things balanced lol,
I'd put the basic location in the locations box and all the flower and fruit details in description/habitat box, there's room, so why not.
Why are these being put in here, just put baileya pleniradiata in the host box? Likewise the other ones
I'd go 15
I'd asked before and not got an answer was just interested that's all! x
It's an 8
Why are you putting the times up? Seems you are the only one, have we missed a directive somewhere?
could be 20th, could be 1974?
Its P D Hurd, he's done quite a few, if you cant read it just 'skip' it and move on.
yep because SP could mean anything! 😉
Magnifying glass makes it look like North or West, but you would need to take out pin to see exactly.
Species is mecardonia, or am I missing something?
Looks crossed out to me, there are about 600 species, so perhaps he bottled out of being more specific!
I'd usually put aug 19th as one date, leave second blank then put what 's on card in the locality or other box, just to record it exactly.
Well, there are quite a few San Felipes, but I'd go with California as that is what it says.
But you could well be right
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=gardiner+wyoming+lodging&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=gardiner+wyoming+lodging&ei=i6OvUbq2JqWT0AWk2oC4Dw&ved=0CPEBELYD
Knowles falls is in wyoming and I think there are parts of Gardiner in Wyoming as well.
Good call, makes sense
why are people putting the times on here? (and why the annoying font?)
Agreed
With the South Fork ref., it could be south fork before Wach, Wachusetts
VIII-25-21 I think, squinted at it with a magnifying glass, zooming in too far just pixelates it and that didn't help much
Well, Lockwood Creek is near Stauffer Post Office!
Well Irish Gap and Clarks Gap are on the same route, with bits in between! (Wand like Bush Clover - but we dont need the local name)
Found an Agua Caliente in Costa Rica, but that only confuses things!
I tend to put first date in box, then both dates in description box. I think it does no harm on the basis these cards may one day vanish.
mesquite, sorry, darn keyboard
Mesquital is an area where mesquie is main plant form, so it may be host?
Creek, I reckon.
I'd like to say thanks to Mr Lelong for clear cards, with all the details we need! Gracias Sr. Lelong
Found mention of a guy called Porter having a mill around here. It looks like Porter to me. I think the dot is a full stop for line above?
I thought we'd stopped fretting about this! Hugs all round and let's move on.
Having said that it's been classified by the experts already as Heliopetes ericetorum.
I think it's NIREUS, I found some species of butterfly with this tag, but like you say not exactly for this one.
I also put it in the host field, why not? It all helps.
Yes, If it will calm things down a bit!
Found some Otis surnames in the insect/bug world, but not an H. I like the urban DTIS (Dont Take It Seriously) 😃
There are references to Tapi Citi in this area, but it would take too much research to pull out something I would stand by.
They are survey references - Township 2 North, Range 6 West Section 16, not needed on record, so no need to worry about them.
I'm English and still smirk at all the Knobs, especially the Bald one 😉
Grote was British entomologist discovered lots of bugs and such.J M Burns determined name of the moth by reference to Grote's publications.
Sounds good.
or even 65? hmmm
OK, I was wrong! Sorry Pict x
Bit harsh! I think any interpretation is valid, and as these records are transcribed by a number of different people, any info helps.
U.S California Alameda County Emeryville
that's what I see too but can't find any evidence elsewhere to prove it.
Born April 7th, 1925.Hugh Iltis "An avid plant collector, Iltis led numerous expeditions to many parts of the world to search for new plants
He is around still, aged 88, so must be 1996.
Dry soil, rocky or ......
That's a bit more!
I think this means the plant was intermittent along the spring, as opposed to frequent or abundant.
Is it Mariposa?
Not sure, I'd put in s.n. and assume others know better than me.
1886! PULL DOWN MENU DOESN'T GO THAT FAR BACK! I USED 1890 AND PUT 1896 IN THE DESCRIPTION BOX.
Alpine Lake is a reservoir in Marin County. So far as I know.
Yep Trice's Lake looks good to me
Can't read it, but have doubts that it's Lover's Lake.Don't think there's a Lover's Lake in Cumberland Co.But I'm ready to be proved wrong.
Yay, maybe you are right, I was beaten while trying to track it down.
Best I can find is kewaunee, but not sure it fits the rest. I think it's the name of a camp, but that may have changed since 1933!
Yep Dr. William McGuire
62!
H H ILTIS, the old boy is still going strong at 88
Just use the two dates boxes, 14th Oct and 23rd Oct
8
agreed
Valley? No idea really.
53! :-0
agreed july 2nd 1915, no collector, so leave that bit blank
There's a Marc Commuter Rail Service
Thanks for the advice and the repetition of what I had already typed, always good to know there is someone who can suggest google!
vis kind of means 'around/about' so near is probably the use here
Not a g a z? Zizia Aptera
Pkin, an actual place name up there
There is a Massie-Meyer plant research centre mentioned in a volume of Native Plants of Texas
Good point 😃
OK, my mistake, sorry
IX - 31 - 38 or 31st September 1938
He was there in 1960, which it looks like to me
I'd guess 1974 going by that font and also when Coville was doing most of his collecting
I reckon 1972?
I'd just put Campus, collector E Storm, date april 1929
collected by otto lugger who died in 1901, so I guess it's 1892!
Leeward Forest
could be hatap on this one but either way they seem more likely to be a persons name?
It's often Hoetop as well!
Dinij is a name that crops up in the area, so probably the Dinij Swamp, but it's probably a locally known name. I have no idea on other bit.
It says Academy Foray, I guess it's some sort of class outing
yep I agree with PICT
Yep check under Virginia
ANYBODY ABLE TO SEE THE LOCALITY?
ANYONE KNOW THIS COLLECTOR?
Yep I'd go with 1967
YEP, I'D AGREE WITH BOTH ASSUMPTIONS!
VERBENACEAE
VERBENA
BRACTEOSA
VERBENA
SANDY SOIL
?
15TH AUGUST 1996
PLICATUS IS THE OMALUS VARIETY. DATE IS 15TH AUGUST 1960
Good idea!
I just click on unknown day and unknown month
Just Prunus should be ok
At the top of the day pull down menu there is 'unknown day', just use that and the record is completd
yep Chard
Gennadi Gudi was involved in a lot of plant classification
B28 could refer to land cover. B28 is Snow and Ice, being a natural waterbody, just a guess, but it could be a reference to habitat
looks more like 1995
A malaise trap is a large, tent-like structure used for trapping flying insects - I put in the host box
J PARKS GILES COUNTY NO:3987 8TH JULY 1978
TRAUTVETTERIA CAROLINIENSIS (WALT) VAIL.
NE WING ROCKS ON BOTTS MTN IN MATURE WOODS
DET: J PARKS
And yes 1966 I reckon
Its America, I'd go July 12th
I would have said 47 sorry!
I believe it means the person who caught the bug, it helps if you want to ask details later.
Yep, just to clarify, don't even type in UC Berkeley
I agree, just put in what you can
If no collector shown you can only 'skip' it
June 7th 1940
7- 23 I use a magnifying glass with these!
What's the question?
I would say 3 km, 600 m and May 14 1985
I sometimes add these additional bits under habitat etc. Cant hurt and it keeps the record complete
I agree, P Johnson was still noting stuff in 2007
There is 'unknown date' at the top of the date pull down menu
1949
13th October, 1985
29th September, 1959
could be Cal Poly
Preserve
Yep, Ranger Station
Preserve
there is a Rio Temas in Honduras, best you can get I think
I agree, I don't think this should be taken as a location, should be ignored.
Type them both in separated by a -
E C COCKE WAS DOING THIS SORT OF THING AROUND THIS TIME
KIMBOLTON LIME QUARRY, KERNES, GILES COUNTY VA
NOTHING TO PUT THEN!