Notes From Nature Talk

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  • HelenBennett57 by HelenBennett57

    Hi Bonnie, these are more herbarium-orientated, but you might find them useful:

    Some useful tools: http://talk.notesfromnature.org/#/boards/BNN0000001/discussions/DNN00001vl

    Transcription standards: http://talk.notesfromnature.org/#/boards/BNN0000001/discussions/DNN000024q

    They're collected together in this blog post http://blog.notesfromnature.org/2014/04/17/faqs-and-useful-tools/ but there may have been a few things added since.

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  • robgur by robgur scientist, admin

    @Bonnie123, thank you for taking part and hope you will stick with it. Helen has given you great advice. Typically, the date we are looking for is the date when the specimen is collected. For different collections, this data is in different places. For most, it is on the specimen label, close by to other information such as location, taxonomic identification. Some labels will have marginalia, or side-comments or other handwritten material. If that seems fully relevant to the field you are entering (such as habitat notes), add it. Often, it is fine to not add content if you have any question about its value. Hope this helps?

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  • HelenBennett57 by HelenBennett57

    @robgur, are Roman numerals always a month no matter what order the date and year are in? Most of the herbarium specimens are mon-day-year, but I've just had one with Roman numerals in the middle and I'm wondering if there's a convention that VII is always July, for example. Thanks!

    For Herbarium specimens, I'd put UC Berkely in as part of the location if it would help someone figure out exactly where the specimen came from.

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  • Mr._Kevvy by Mr._Kevvy

    As far as I know the convention is to use Roman numerals for the month so that there is no confusion that it is the day field. Here is an example when the day field is 22 so can't possibly be the month.

    Here is another example from an entomologist who indicates "use roman numerals for month of collection"

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  • robgur by robgur scientist, admin

    sorry for not getting back to this sooner, @HelenBennett57! Yes, roman numerals are always for months (with the usual caveat that there is probably some record, somewhere, where this isn't true). @Bonnie123 and @HelenBennett57, the issue with UC Berkeley is a tough one. Sometimes that is indeed a locality (e.g. found near Memorial Stadium, UC Berkeley campus), and sometimes it is a stamp and associated with the EMEC (Essig Museum of Entomology California) record number. In the case where it says "UC Berkeley EMEC XXXXXX", you don't need to note that anywhere --- just sort of an ownership statement and we already know which collection the records are coming from! Hope this helps?

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  • HelenBennett57 by HelenBennett57

    Yes indeed it does, thank you.

    I'll add the Roman numerals convention to the Transcription Standards thread.

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