Notes From Nature Talk
Definitely looks like John Moyler Jr. to me
#letter @nosenabook @ghewson what did you two decide to do with this? did you input any of the info or did you skip it?
ok thanks- couldn't read the writing
called? It looks like it's a form of clover- closest currently accepted name I found was Trifolium montanum
the species name (Trifolium virginianum, Small from what I can read) no longer exists or has been replaced- anybody have any ideas what it's
mecardonia is just the genus unfortunately- at least the location is well-specified- really interesting place, too!
#Incomplete
#Nameunclear no species given
haha!
Haha glad to have some company!
Also, for future reference, it appears that Pelham is a city within Birmingham City, and that section of Birmingham is part of Shelby Co.
#Unclear The location is listed as Woods but there's a note in pencil at the bottom describing the plant as cultivated.
#Incomplete No species given. Also, possibly important to note, this is described as a "cultivated plant," even though it is native.
Warwick County was absorbed by Newport News City in 1958 so you can use that as the location...VA cities are at the bottom of the co. list
hmm it does look a lot like Towles Add. If that is what's written I don't have any idea what it means unfortunately
Ok thanks!
#Handwriting So all I can make out for locality is Clark's and Irish H--s or G--s.... I like the way he wrote the species name though haha
See images here: http://search.lib.virginia.edu/catalog/uva-lib:1044471/view. Went to elem. school in Alb. Co. with two Bowles kids too
Looks Like Bowles Orchard- There was a place in Albemarle County through 1930 called the Harry Bowles Residence that had apple orchards-
very close to MLBS in Giles Co, VA, so I used that for the location info.
#location For anyone else who has specimens from "Mt. Lake Girl's Camp": there was a Mountain Lake Camp for Girls in the 30's
currently Grove Hill, at least according what I could find
#location AL has state routes instead of state rds.. should be State Rte 10. Also Allen no longer exists- same zip code is
I think I input his name as "Freed" a few times before seeing it typed out 😮
I just liked how geometric this specimen looked 😄
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.giles/497.643/mb.ashx
populated place and called "Hoges Chapel," and is located in the town of Pembroke. Google searches confirmed the info on this page:
#location Just for future reference, this is a misspelling and currently this place is known by a different name. It's currently a
Haha
#incomplete Only the species is faintly listed (Ulmus americana). Otherwise it's a blank card like the one recently tagged for discussion.
#unclear Anybody know what " # H.R.T. " means? It's the tiny writing next to the species name.
Ok thanks. I guess I should also tag this as #nodate
#spelling This is definitely Witch Hazel but the genus is spelled "Hammelis"- only spelling I can find is "Hamamelis"- archaic spelling?
so it may well have been an actual place. wikipedia has an entry on intermittent spring: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythmic_spring
the link I listed talks about an intermittent spring in Rockingham Co. at a "Rockingham Farm" in the early 19th cent.
#location found this on "intermittent spring"- http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mpearce&id=I03787
See Image ANN0000o4l for same Rivanna-Hotopp connection
@SandersClan further confirms your source's info- your link says Hotopp was on the Rivanna River too.
#cross Another set of multiple Eupatorium species/hybrids
#Hotopp Just furthering investigation into the mysterious Hotopp/Hoetop/Hotop haha- this says it's near the Rivanna River, incase that helps
Thanks- hadn't encountered the "4 sheets this number" situation you described before, tho I too have seen a few hybrids, probably also RKG.
@riskingraisin, were you thinking this is part of a three-specimen set or something? I didn't really know how to handle this-
I just listed the three plants and said the coll. didn't indicate which one was preserved on the sheet...
#unclear Three plants are listed (two Eupatorium species and an unnamed hybrid) but as you can see there's only one specimen. Suggestions?
No prob!
Thanks- I'll add that as a possible locality
Looks like Wytheville, which does exist as a city in Wythe County
any idea what the collector means by "Station?" Was this found at the Mountain Lake Biological Station maybe?
good to know- sorry for the incorrect reading!
Looks like "Kewanzee." Kewanzee apparently was a kid's summer camp in the 30's- it curr. is close to Peaks of the Otter and
Apple Orchard Falls, and North of Glenwood Horse Trail
were you wanting a current name for the location? Or just handwriting decoding? If the latter, it says Lover's Lake, Cumberland County.
accepted synonym." I just added 'AKA' and the alt. name I hope I didn't mess up the transcription 😮 ...
Found it by accident when looked up the plant to learn more about it- the given name came up in the ITIS pg for the alt name as a "not
Thank you both!
#handwriting can't read locality info- Piney Swamp, .... Draft?
looks like plant is currently known as Senecio eremophilus var. kingii Rydb. (ITIS says oth name obsolete). should both names be included?
#unclear location anybody know what "Hatap" or "Hotop" is? I'm from Albemarle Co. and I've never heard of it. 2nd time I've seen it listed.
thanks- that helped a lot. A Big Stoney Creek came up in Giles Co. Va so I assume I should just use that for the location fields?
#incomplete listing #handwriting "Stang" Creek?
there's a Hunters Branch in Fairfax, Va, so I'm assuming it's US
@SandersClan thanks for the explanation. Very helpful @caitlins you got some mad handwriting decryption skills
#handwriting can anyone read what the note in blue ink says?
oh and "Stuarts Draft" after Camp Tuckahoe- just realized it (I'm from VA so that made it easier)
ok thanks- i used the latest one
"Albemarle" written a second time and erased
#unclear determination
collector unsure about his/her determination
#note #multiple determinations
Polygala paucifolia from Camp Tuckahoe- probably in Augusta Co. VA. The habitat looks like "Rich Woodland Mountains."
Which name should I use? There are 3 species names listed for this plant. #unclear
Definitely looks like John Moyler Jr. to me
#letter @nosenabook @ghewson what did you two decide to do with this? did you input any of the info or did you skip it?
ok thanks- couldn't read the writing
called? It looks like it's a form of clover- closest currently accepted name I found was Trifolium montanum
the species name (Trifolium virginianum, Small from what I can read) no longer exists or has been replaced- anybody have any ideas what it's
mecardonia is just the genus unfortunately- at least the location is well-specified- really interesting place, too!
#Incomplete
#Nameunclear no species given
#Incomplete
haha!
Haha glad to have some company!
Also, for future reference, it appears that Pelham is a city within Birmingham City, and that section of Birmingham is part of Shelby Co.
#Unclear The location is listed as Woods but there's a note in pencil at the bottom describing the plant as cultivated.
#Incomplete No species given. Also, possibly important to note, this is described as a "cultivated plant," even though it is native.
Warwick County was absorbed by Newport News City in 1958 so you can use that as the location...VA cities are at the bottom of the co. list
hmm it does look a lot like Towles Add. If that is what's written I don't have any idea what it means unfortunately
Ok thanks!
#Handwriting So all I can make out for locality is Clark's and Irish H--s or G--s.... I like the way he wrote the species name though haha
See images here: http://search.lib.virginia.edu/catalog/uva-lib:1044471/view. Went to elem. school in Alb. Co. with two Bowles kids too
Looks Like Bowles Orchard- There was a place in Albemarle County through 1930 called the Harry Bowles Residence that had apple orchards-
very close to MLBS in Giles Co, VA, so I used that for the location info.
#location For anyone else who has specimens from "Mt. Lake Girl's Camp": there was a Mountain Lake Camp for Girls in the 30's
currently Grove Hill, at least according what I could find
#location AL has state routes instead of state rds.. should be State Rte 10. Also Allen no longer exists- same zip code is
I think I input his name as "Freed" a few times before seeing it typed out 😮
I just liked how geometric this specimen looked 😄
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.giles/497.643/mb.ashx
populated place and called "Hoges Chapel," and is located in the town of Pembroke. Google searches confirmed the info on this page:
#location Just for future reference, this is a misspelling and currently this place is known by a different name. It's currently a
Haha
#incomplete Only the species is faintly listed (Ulmus americana). Otherwise it's a blank card like the one recently tagged for discussion.
#unclear Anybody know what " # H.R.T. " means? It's the tiny writing next to the species name.
Ok thanks. I guess I should also tag this as #nodate
#spelling This is definitely Witch Hazel but the genus is spelled "Hammelis"- only spelling I can find is "Hamamelis"- archaic spelling?
so it may well have been an actual place. wikipedia has an entry on intermittent spring: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythmic_spring
the link I listed talks about an intermittent spring in Rockingham Co. at a "Rockingham Farm" in the early 19th cent.
#location found this on "intermittent spring"- http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mpearce&id=I03787
See Image ANN0000o4l for same Rivanna-Hotopp connection
@SandersClan further confirms your source's info- your link says Hotopp was on the Rivanna River too.
#cross Another set of multiple Eupatorium species/hybrids
#Hotopp Just furthering investigation into the mysterious Hotopp/Hoetop/Hotop haha- this says it's near the Rivanna River, incase that helps
Thanks- hadn't encountered the "4 sheets this number" situation you described before, tho I too have seen a few hybrids, probably also RKG.
@riskingraisin, were you thinking this is part of a three-specimen set or something? I didn't really know how to handle this-
I just listed the three plants and said the coll. didn't indicate which one was preserved on the sheet...
#unclear Three plants are listed (two Eupatorium species and an unnamed hybrid) but as you can see there's only one specimen. Suggestions?
No prob!
Thanks- I'll add that as a possible locality
Looks like Wytheville, which does exist as a city in Wythe County
any idea what the collector means by "Station?" Was this found at the Mountain Lake Biological Station maybe?
good to know- sorry for the incorrect reading!
Looks like "Kewanzee." Kewanzee apparently was a kid's summer camp in the 30's- it curr. is close to Peaks of the Otter and
Apple Orchard Falls, and North of Glenwood Horse Trail
were you wanting a current name for the location? Or just handwriting decoding? If the latter, it says Lover's Lake, Cumberland County.
accepted synonym." I just added 'AKA' and the alt. name I hope I didn't mess up the transcription 😮 ...
Found it by accident when looked up the plant to learn more about it- the given name came up in the ITIS pg for the alt name as a "not
Thank you both!
#handwriting can't read locality info- Piney Swamp, .... Draft?
looks like plant is currently known as Senecio eremophilus var. kingii Rydb. (ITIS says oth name obsolete). should both names be included?
#unclear location anybody know what "Hatap" or "Hotop" is? I'm from Albemarle Co. and I've never heard of it. 2nd time I've seen it listed.
thanks- that helped a lot. A Big Stoney Creek came up in Giles Co. Va so I assume I should just use that for the location fields?
#incomplete listing
#handwriting "Stang" Creek?
there's a Hunters Branch in Fairfax, Va, so I'm assuming it's US
@SandersClan thanks for the explanation. Very helpful @caitlins you got some mad handwriting decryption skills
#handwriting
can anyone read what the note in blue ink says?
oh and "Stuarts Draft" after Camp Tuckahoe- just realized it (I'm from VA so that made it easier)
ok thanks- i used the latest one
"Albemarle" written a second time and erased
#unclear determination
collector unsure about his/her determination
#note #multiple determinations
Polygala paucifolia from Camp Tuckahoe- probably in Augusta Co. VA. The habitat looks like "Rich Woodland Mountains."
Which name should I use? There are 3 species names listed for this plant. #unclear