Notes From Nature Talk
#scientist Good call. Thanks! And night dives are great.
#scientist Not sure either. It looks like it's actually "Shorttail Gulch", south of Doran spit. No trace of any "Three ? Cove".
#scientist I agree (for what it's worth!)
When in doubt: Other. This is very cool: "Elsie" was used by extraordinary early female biologists in the area. Great historical find!
#scientist Thanks! Yes, we'll enter that into the determination comments (which we don't ask you to fill out).
#scientist Must have been a good batch! Duplicate labels are inserted when transfers are anticipated. Some of these are now in Singapore...
#scientist I have no idea. Given the length of description, I'd guess this was a specialized trap they used. We may never know.
#scientist Yup. Bummer. Our only hope of resolution is if we have a "Searcher" vessel log. Realistically, though: close enough either way.
#scientist We'd take it as the "Catalog Number". Unless it's clearly identified as something else, assume Catalog Number.
#scientist You're right on target. Todd Zimmerman was in the lab here in 1999 and apparently corrected (he thinks!) an earlier ID.
#scientist You're right. However, the "Sun Oil" numbers on the label refer to a logbook that we may be able to get (possibly!).
#scientist You're right. From the date, fathoms was most likely. This is confirmed on the logbook entry we have for that record.
#scientist Yes, I'm sure you're right.
#scientist Thanks! Looking at the (poor) photo we have, there are at least 7 crabs in the vial. Could be just noting what was looked at.
#scientist Perfect. Probably a two-day trip, and no one bothered to figure out which day each specimen was picked up.
#scientist Very! From context of other labels, I think it's "Redondo Bch. Burch 4113" Tough, though.
#scientist Get the feeling this jar sat on a shelf for a while before being looked at? (We may have a logbook entry for that station number)
#scientist Your guess is as good as ours on that!
#scientist Sorry! We clearly need a better QC step on our end to make sure these don't sneak through.
#scientist People put down whatever they remember. At this point: doesn't much matter. You're almost certainly right on the depth, though.
#scientist No kidding. Whatever we can salvage off that label is more than we had before... Thanks!
#scientist Looking at the specimens: "ov." likely stands for "ovigerous" (has eggs).
#scientist Turns out that 1219-40 is correct -- there wasn't a 1219-41. See: http://decapoda.nhm.org/references/32084 pp. 91-92. Good catch!
#scientist Thanks! We'll put that into the determination notes (which we're not having participants fill in).
#scientist At this point, honestly, it probably doesn't matter if they picked this one up on Monday or Thursday...
#scientist Like the upside down one — sorry! We missed correcting the camera's strange idea of what is "up".
#scientist Ouch. Sorry. Our bad. The camera, pointing straight down, sometimes had weird ideas of which way was "up". We missed that one!
Wow. Turns out it's a long dredge from "shoal to 40 fathoms". See log entry: http://decapoda.nhm.org/references/32084 p. 319. Cool!
Looking at the other "5" on the label, I'm guessing it is 15 fathoms. It's fairly shallow water, either way -- not a huge difference.
No problem — the original notes (the faint ones) were at least mostly transcribed onto the preprinted label while they were legible.
This is (unfortunately) not too uncommon. We'll take a look at all the labels, and try to sort it out with external logbook data. Thanks!
You're right — the name (at that time) was Cancer oregonensis, now known as Glebocarcinus oregonensis.
You're the one we appreciate! This is a complex and challenging transcription job (as you know). We're extremelly appreciative of your time.
We take that advice for most of our specimens...
Helen's right: the Anton Dorhn was a German fisheries research vessel.
"Shore" is a "site description" -- something about the collection location. "Searcher", was a research vessel, so that's just "Other Text".
Could be either, but we'd assume "Jack Littlepage" is the collector. In Crustacea, few collectors acquire without collecting.
Bight '03 is (basically) an expedition: it's a big multi-location collection made by sanitation districts in SoCal around sewage outfalls.
Again: you were right. "V"=voucher specimen; "FID"=further ID [is needed]. The "V" tells us they're confident of their identification.
We had to ask around the lab on that. In this context: "legitis", Latin for "collected by".
We're working on it! For a preview (incomplete): see http://research.nhm.org/crabs/help
Seconding @rwetzer on that. Don't get us started on how screwed up the multiple "Acc. No." schemes became over time at this institution...
Ouch - sorry! The interface was changed for this project, and we're not bug-free. We hope to get it patched in the very near future.
Good call -- very likely the USARP label was first. And yes, a fathom=6 feet, so 79 fms = 145 m.
Think Sunoco -- oil company. Likely picked up on a survey prior to dropping a drill rig.
Yes, it's "yg". That abbreviation was new to us when we started looking at this label series. Apparently it stands for "young".
Indeed you're right! Looking at the two count labels, it looks as though there are 6 noted in total, and the jar looks consistent with that.
I believe the NfN folks are still working on the credit/badge interactions with the rest of the system. But you totally get moral credit!
Sigh... Browser issue. It works for me in Safari, fails for me in Firefox. I'll report it back to NfN Central. Thanks!
#scientist Good call. Thanks! And night dives are great.
#scientist Not sure either. It looks like it's actually "Shorttail Gulch", south of Doran spit. No trace of any "Three ? Cove".
#scientist I agree (for what it's worth!)
When in doubt: Other. This is very cool: "Elsie" was used by extraordinary early female biologists in the area. Great historical find!
#scientist Thanks! Yes, we'll enter that into the determination comments (which we don't ask you to fill out).
#scientist Must have been a good batch! Duplicate labels are inserted when transfers are anticipated. Some of these are now in Singapore...
#scientist I have no idea. Given the length of description, I'd guess this was a specialized trap they used. We may never know.
#scientist Yup. Bummer. Our only hope of resolution is if we have a "Searcher" vessel log. Realistically, though: close enough either way.
#scientist We'd take it as the "Catalog Number". Unless it's clearly identified as something else, assume Catalog Number.
#scientist You're right on target. Todd Zimmerman was in the lab here in 1999 and apparently corrected (he thinks!) an earlier ID.
#scientist You're right. However, the "Sun Oil" numbers on the label refer to a logbook that we may be able to get (possibly!).
#scientist You're right. From the date, fathoms was most likely. This is confirmed on the logbook entry we have for that record.
#scientist Yes, I'm sure you're right.
#scientist Thanks! Looking at the (poor) photo we have, there are at least 7 crabs in the vial. Could be just noting what was looked at.
#scientist Perfect. Probably a two-day trip, and no one bothered to figure out which day each specimen was picked up.
#scientist Very! From context of other labels, I think it's "Redondo Bch. Burch 4113" Tough, though.
#scientist Get the feeling this jar sat on a shelf for a while before being looked at? (We may have a logbook entry for that station number)
#scientist Your guess is as good as ours on that!
#scientist Sorry! We clearly need a better QC step on our end to make sure these don't sneak through.
#scientist People put down whatever they remember. At this point: doesn't much matter. You're almost certainly right on the depth, though.
#scientist No kidding. Whatever we can salvage off that label is more than we had before... Thanks!
#scientist Looking at the specimens: "ov." likely stands for "ovigerous" (has eggs).
#scientist Turns out that 1219-40 is correct -- there wasn't a 1219-41. See: http://decapoda.nhm.org/references/32084 pp. 91-92. Good catch!
#scientist Thanks! We'll put that into the determination notes (which we're not having participants fill in).
#scientist At this point, honestly, it probably doesn't matter if they picked this one up on Monday or Thursday...
#scientist Like the upside down one — sorry! We missed correcting the camera's strange idea of what is "up".
#scientist Ouch. Sorry. Our bad. The camera, pointing straight down, sometimes had weird ideas of which way was "up". We missed that one!
Wow. Turns out it's a long dredge from "shoal to 40 fathoms". See log entry: http://decapoda.nhm.org/references/32084 p. 319. Cool!
Looking at the other "5" on the label, I'm guessing it is 15 fathoms. It's fairly shallow water, either way -- not a huge difference.
No problem — the original notes (the faint ones) were at least mostly transcribed onto the preprinted label while they were legible.
This is (unfortunately) not too uncommon. We'll take a look at all the labels, and try to sort it out with external logbook data. Thanks!
You're right — the name (at that time) was Cancer oregonensis, now known as Glebocarcinus oregonensis.
You're the one we appreciate! This is a complex and challenging transcription job (as you know). We're extremelly appreciative of your time.
We take that advice for most of our specimens...
Helen's right: the Anton Dorhn was a German fisheries research vessel.
"Shore" is a "site description" -- something about the collection location. "Searcher", was a research vessel, so that's just "Other Text".
Could be either, but we'd assume "Jack Littlepage" is the collector. In Crustacea, few collectors acquire without collecting.
Bight '03 is (basically) an expedition: it's a big multi-location collection made by sanitation districts in SoCal around sewage outfalls.
Again: you were right. "V"=voucher specimen; "FID"=further ID [is needed]. The "V" tells us they're confident of their identification.
We had to ask around the lab on that. In this context: "legitis", Latin for "collected by".
We're working on it! For a preview (incomplete): see http://research.nhm.org/crabs/help
Seconding @rwetzer on that. Don't get us started on how screwed up the multiple "Acc. No." schemes became over time at this institution...
Ouch - sorry! The interface was changed for this project, and we're not bug-free. We hope to get it patched in the very near future.
Good call -- very likely the USARP label was first. And yes, a fathom=6 feet, so 79 fms = 145 m.
Think Sunoco -- oil company. Likely picked up on a survey prior to dropping a drill rig.
Yes, it's "yg". That abbreviation was new to us when we started looking at this label series. Apparently it stands for "young".
Indeed you're right! Looking at the two count labels, it looks as though there are 6 noted in total, and the jar looks consistent with that.
I believe the NfN folks are still working on the credit/badge interactions with the rest of the system. But you totally get moral credit!
Sigh... Browser issue. It works for me in Safari, fails for me in Firefox. I'll report it back to NfN Central. Thanks!