Notes From Nature Talk
NB this is Alabama! I almost entered Louisiana -- there are Jackson Counties in AL and LA.
Corrected to octovalvis. #misspelled
I corrected this to octovalvis (also extension).
#misspelled - should be lyrata
#misspelled - should be ludoviciana
#misspelled (correct spelling corollata is in newer label)
Is that handwriting a date? Something 57? #date #unclear
September 31?! #date
#error erythrorhizos should be erythrorrhizos.
What does s. n. stand for?
#spelling Should be New Lebanon
1986? It's what I put.
#error Second word of place & year partially obscured. 1919? Left blank.
#handwriting Not sure about year. 64? 69? Left blank.
Kings R C??? Something to do with Kings River?
Aug 1924? I McL?
On golden rod.
Yes, I'd think the surname is more important. So what is it?
#handwriting Cecil H? ?
Is Pettigrew cliff really a habitat?
#handwriting Can't make out second name
#unclear 1950 or 1959?
#error no year
Brookman? If this is the B. Brookman in essigdb, the year is probably 1939, but I can't bring myself to transcribe that.
Something on reverse of label, maybe host species? Something spinnii?
#error year partially obscured.
VI-12-1968? Could be 1963.
A name to conjure with. Getting distracted on YouTube now...
E. C. Crclce. 😉
E. P. Van Duxpo? Duxee?
Mulegé in present-day Baja California Sur. In 1921, the whole of Baja California was a territory. (Wikipedia)
Must be that time range on the two days. Never seen that before.
Strange: there's a date range and a time range.
I put Geocarpon instead of Ceocarpon.
I can't find any reference to Evolvulus sericrus, but I transcribed it as shown.
Yes, that's why I said "probably". I couldn't find a "Los Ang. river" anywhere else, but that doesn't mean there isn't one.
Looling river? I eventually settled on Los Ang. river, unknown country. (Though probably Los Angeles River.)
Oh right, I was confused by the abbreviation on the bottom label.
Seems to be some uncertainty about the host species
Why not go for 5000 and find out?
Indian Springs, Clark Co., Nev.?
Would that be Wherry's writing? (Try saying that quickly!)
With a photo!
Cold War science... 😦
This became today's EPA National Analytical Radiation Environmental Laboratory (NAREL)
Does it spell out a message?
Panicum acuminatum (line above collector's name starts "P. acuminatum".).
Poplar Island could be MD, WV or British Columbia
I've been keeping notes, which I'd be happy to share if we had a wiki...
It's undecided whether to use the original or the latest determination
Unfortunately, there isn't an other notes section for plants.
Doesn't look as though it fits, to me. I see Erioponum or something
I'd guess E. G. & J. M Linsley
Only thing to do is record the month and day as "Not Shown".
Erio-something (presumably plant genus), but I can't find anything which fits
#error Year smudged: 195n. I'd guess 1952, but I left it not shown in the transcription.
I expect that's Yaracuy. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Venezuela
A Place Called Borego: http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journal/97winter/borrego.htm
What does 611.2 mean? Just some catalogue reference?
Banos, 8 mi E? Looks more like a Greek θ
May 4, but no year. 😦
Quite an eclectic collector, MGL, not afraid to select non-native species (see also ANN0000xin).
I think that's "Aug".
Couldn't read all the handwritten note, so just transcribed the typewritten note.
Oh yes, there was the Appalachian trail to the west if my memory is now working
If I found the right Snowden on Google maps, there are only hills to the west, across the river, and a road to the north-west, with no roads
off it seen on Street View
OK, people seem agreed it's "Jos." What's the next word, then? Please imagine the second, subsidiary, question isn't there.
Jos. Pine. road? Short for Joshua?
#moderator I think we need a closer shot. Hwy 400 or 409? 105°W or 106?
I think this is MGL's little seasonal joke.
It has that effect on people...
I had assumed there's more information out of shot. It's unusual to have so tight a shot as this.
You see entomologists noting host plants, but you don't see plant biologists noting feeding insects!
Ah, yes. Also ANN0002akd 😃
Compare the "1" in the last line with "l"s elsewhere in the label.
It was common for typewriters not to have a 1, and people used l instead. I reckon that's what Kral intended to type.
Cranberry Bog? When I encountered this, it took me a while to accept it's a place name.
Linsley AND MacSwain! The bug is honoured!
Yes, it looks more like a U. I think there's the edge of the right-hand serif visible.
Collector name hiding Sel- something
Can't make out the collector's initials, but search shows a Jerome G. Rozen. Guess this is him?
Ramsey County places Buell in Minnesota or North Dakota.
Is this all there is?
Yes, I think all the required info is on the paper, and it's a bad photo. We need a #moderator
Yes, I know that /now/. But, just as an example, take the family name, -something- ricaceae. There's a cross - is that a 't'? I can't tell.
It's the flowery capital letters that do me. Also, although Theplantlist is usually pretty good, it refused to recognise *umulus or ?umulus.
Well, I can't read the name, even looking at other examples of our friend Flora Americano's terrible #handwriting. I'm skipping the record.
Is Squash the host? That's what I put. #time 07:00-07:30
Yep, that's all you can do.
Well, it says "Cal.", so that's what I'd put. Surely it'd say Baja California if it were there.
Yeah, should have thought about using the French Wiki!
The specimen was collected in 1965, so use this date. The species was "determined" by Roberts in 1967, so ignore that.
Ah, I'd only found Fenouillet the commune in a different département.
Jardin Botanique - botanical garden. Hyères and Fenouillet are places in France, so I'm not sure what "et Hyères au Fenouillet" is about.
I've seen a few of those without realising what a paratype is. I'll tag any I see in future.
The information might be useful.
What does P. O. stand for?
Genitalia no. X-74; J. M. Burns 1975
Can't make out the location. This might provide a clue to the country...
County: San Luis Obispo; Locality: Simmler, 10 mi W.; Begin Date: 05-03-1963; Collector: J. Powell
Collected by F. H. Sargent? The species was introduced in 1969?
D'oh, creek it is! http://california.hometownlocator.com/maps/feature-map,ftc,1,fid,238441,n,agua caliente creek.cfm
We should award bonus badges!
p.s. Caliente rather than Caliante
I reckoned it was this, so not exactly creek territory! - http://tourguidetim.com/agua-caliente-desert-hot-springs/
Can't make out the abbreviation under Agua. Camping ground or county park don't fit.
Malacothamnus is a genus of plants. Malacothamnus niveus would fit, if you reckon the 3rd and 4th letters are v and e
One could argue that the Host field should contain only species names. In fact, that's what the popup help pretty much says.
Yes, Wikipedia says: Alaska is the other exception, which is divided into boroughs and census areas instead.
NFN is a geography lesson! So Louisiana has parishes rather than counties.
I use a #malaise-trap tag. I've seen someone else suggesting putting it in the Host field, and I've done that myself too.
That's an impressive number!
I've seen examples of people working on Independence Day. That's sheer dedication, no other reason.
N.W. of ??
(There's no State Line Mountain that I can see, but anyway...)
What's the species? There seems to have been something written under Cydonia, now erased. Porifera doesn't fit. I just put Cydonia.
... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Virginia_covered_bridges
I had to check out Sinking Creek Covered Bridge!
Can't read collector name #handwriting
Two species, two dates. I'll transcribe the top, earlier, one. #multiple
Yes, I'd go with 7/21/51
What does "Pres." stand for?
It would probably have been better not to guess, but to enter Unknown.
http://www.theplantlist.org/ suggests Disporum lanuginosum.
That's correct. It means the specimen was collected in a trap between those dates. See the pop-up help for Begin Date.
Big spring below ??, Bedford Co. #handwriting
Last word is Pltin? Abbreviation of Plantation? #handwriting
Zigia aptera? s/b Zygia? Can't find any mention of this, even at the FSU Herbarium site
http://www.theplantlist.org is a great resource, with incremental and wildcard searching. The scientific name seems to be Datura stramonium.
Can't read the word before Edgerton. #handwriting
Det stands for Determined By, so L. D. French determined the species the specimen belongs to.
I think I'm going to start a #redaction collection.
Were you able to do so for other specimens? Please describe in more detail what happened when you tried here. Maybe better in discussion.
See also ANN0000n0i, where it's by the Rivanna River.
Can't read Collector #handwriting
The height surprised RKG!
Not sure if 2/3/52 is the collection date, but it's the only date here. What's "Euclid * MKT-S.D."?
I don't think there's a consensus on this. Some say take the name from the original label, others say use the latest name.
Seems to be the time, yes. There are several records like this.
I would say so, yes
Genitalia vial. The butterfly's not called obscurior for nothing!
Some people note the season too
It wasn't intended as question
Geographical coordinates: http://talk.notesfromnature.org/#/boards/BNN0000003/discussions/DNN0000094
No date. #error
B28 is Teasley's class, or collection number?
Q. What does O+ mean? A. It's a ♀ symbol of Venus on its side.
View 22669 specimens:
Presumably the leaves were collected in 1974, not 73. I put the former.
Does it say 62474a, and are these extra inflrorescences from 62474?
Label has county as Franklin-Liberty. I put Liberty, as Rt. 67 seems to be mainly here, and also put Franklin-Liberty in Location.
No question, just my attempt at categorisation. See http://talk.notesfromnature.org/#/boards/BNN0000003/discussions/DNN00000bk
We're not recording the gender anyway
Kimballton Lime Quarry, ???, Va
Good, clear handwriting!
I put M. L. Vardell, but it could be Vandell
Wow, nice going! Sandy?
Along roadside between ? & ? Gap, Amherst Co.
Hmm, maybe http://www.theplantlist.org/ isn't so great, after all.
Scientific author (L) Ron ??
Had RKG injured his normal writing hand and was writing with the other?
Date is ?/17/33. 2? 4? 6? Unlike Calbug, Herbarium doesn't allow input of partial dates. 😦
Can't read locality (got Botentourt Co.) or collector.
Campus? Campos? #handwriting
Nov 26 1913, then!
You want the number on the original label, because it goes with the name of the collector. I reckon 962 here, as it's underneath the name.
Est. Biol. La Selva is Estación Biológica La Selva; the name in English is La Selva Biological Station
I think there have been hints that we should use the latest information, in this case from 1976.
E. C. Squiggle
What is (a) golo?
Can't read collector
Does this mean Cordoba the municipality, or Cordoba the city? I'll put County as Cordoba, because that'll give a wider area. #unclear
Does this mean San Diego the city in San Diego County? I'll assume yes. #unclear
I assume "Saghen" is really "Sagehen". I put the latter.
Search wasn't finding #redaction. Does it work now?
See also ANN000039x
Not a whole lot of info here!
Great, I pressed Enter with the wrong focus in the specimen, so now can't go back. 😦
Voucher for chromatography in Fryar's thesis problem
I entered 564 for the collection number, but I'm not sure
Not a specimen!
Can't read the collector
Not completely sure of Powerline (why upper-case?), FSH, T4N (could that be W?)
Label says "Voucher for Orlando Jetport study"
Chromosome voucher:A, from Mission Rd., July 31, 1969 by Victoria I. Sullivan.
Note says Aster longifolius Lam. (or near) (i.e., a southern variant)
There's a difference of opinion in the 1978 determinations.
Note says: Aster dumosus L. (or near, with influence of A. F. (?) fragilis.
Trap coll., trap no. C232C1
Sheet 1 of 2
Handwritten note says "Voucher for chromatography in Fryar's thesis problem"
See also ANN00006d8 and discussion
24.5 hours (1300 - 1330)?
Unable to put this into previous comment -- number of characters is limited.
Benson and not Bensom, presumably. Don't know what to make of mark above second hyphen of date -- looks like another n?
Label says: The several sheets [with] this number comprise a single plant.
Label says collected at malaise trap
Label says post-fire survey
Revised from original determination of S. brittonii
Note says "var. elongatus Bosserdet. Unusually few disk florets".
Oops, now I can't go back to entering the data. 😦
Note above label says "! EM Hodgson 1965". Guess s/he saw something noteworthy.
Two plants; what to do? #multiple
Haha! It's the original scientific author, Carl Linnaeus!
Parts of the label have been Tippexed out! #redaction
I can't read the handwriting above the label, and I don't know if it's important.
What does "L." mean, and is it part of the scientific name? Should it go in the scientific author field?
What does the smaller label mean? Is it correcting the name of the species entered three years previously?
There seem to be two labels here...?